Kiwing
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Wow Thank you for the on the ground feeling.
Good luck with the weather and your hopes. I am sure Kiwi number eight wire mentality will find away to get there if it is at all possible.
ETNZ To Attempt Wind Powered Land Speed Word Record
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Good luck with the weather and your hopes. I am sure Kiwi number eight wire mentality will find away to get there if it is at all possible.
The_Alchemist
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I think you are assuming too much about these qualifications. They have proven to be competent engineers in areas where they have collected a lot of field data and developed the effective models. but this is completely different. They have no data, they copied the design of the one person you are so quick to claim is not as good as them.
I think given enough time and effort, they have the resources to make a good run at the record, but it will take years of concentrated efforts instead of just a six month distraction. They have not accomplished anything yet, many designs have reached speeds faster than they have so far (even the old French beach racers), and gaining that top speed is the most difficult.
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The_Alchemist
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Really? Yes, it has rained more than usual, but as we have discussed before it is the cold and wet part of the season. Saying they have had bad luck is like saying I had bad luck trying to go skiing in Aspen in July.
enigmatically2
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To be fair Lotus built and qualified for Indianapolis at their first event back in the day. And then finished 2nd I think. And went on to win it
Tasmania is hardly “on the ground”, but I was born in South Australia and lived there for 30 years before moving on….
If I was planning their record attempt, I would be doing it now, right up to the new year. March is no guarantee of optimum conditions.
Scroll right down through all the weather data served up in umpteen different ways from the nearest RAAF base, and choose your own optimum period:
RAAF Woomera Airfield Climate, Weather By Month, Average Temperature (Australia) - Weather Spark
At RAAF Woomera Airfield, the summers are hot; the winters are cold; and it is dry, windy, and mostly clear year round. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 44°F to 94°F and is rarely below 39°F or above 106°F.
weatherspark.com
JALhazmat
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most qualified? Not in land speed they aren’t
they have a shit load of design engineering and cash from a sailing perspective.
One of the first videos they did. They said they were looking at the tires to see if there was something better that they could use and lo and behold there wasn’t. That doesn’t scream most qualified
do I want them to succeed and push the record out? Of course I do because going unfeasibly fast on land or water is inherently cool. Do I like how whole process has been dressed up and a slightly bizarre decisions that have been made along the way no I don’t.
Generally NASCAR is not dominated by one person who has a good reputation and no one else who ever has tried.
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barfy
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Thanks for weather updates.
Actual content here is hard to come by.
shebeen
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Going on to this theme, I see Horonuku as a direct descendant of Greenbird. They have shifted some of the variables around, (particularly weight) but the platform and mechanics look very similiar. The huge difference in the projects is a 10 year mission by a man possesed but probably digging around for budget vs a well funded team of experts in their own right trying to improve upon the previous attempt in a much more rigid timeframe.
Does anyone know if Jenkins has/had been consulted about this project or does that mess up the goal of the design journey? Seems like even just a comment/opinion from him on the project would be interesting. Imagine if RJ is behind the scenes getting greenbird up again. Waiting for ETNZ to break the record by a bit and then go home. Then Greenbird comes out the shed and takes the record back the next week.
dogwatch
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What specifically has winning the AC got to do with winning the sailing land speed record?
shebeen
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Good point, there are crossovers and but a lot of unknowns. I'm sure they built a better craft structurally speaking.
With hindsight it is a bit odd they didn't rather go for the world speedsailing record. That is approaching 10 years old soon (even if there are two other projects eyeing it up)
dogwatch
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I have also been wondering that. It would have been a more relevant and less esoteric project. But good luck to them. I was enjoying following it before this elongated hiatus.
On the subject of esoteric projects, I wish this one would resume. https://perlanproject.org/about/#history In 2018, 76,124 feet in a sailplane, higher than U2.
JALhazmat
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The other thing is that green bird was built to do land ice and water with interchangeable parts.
I know it/Richard ran it at weymouth speed week one year but this was well before it set the land record, I don’t know what configuration it was in either.
you can’t read much into it though as weymouth isn’t especially fast for boats, sailrocket struggled/wasn’t optimal yet went on to greatness
fun thing is that you can‘t just turbo an AC boat go get the record as it all has to be manual power, no battery, or hydraulics.
I know it/Richard ran it at weymouth speed week one year but this was well before it set the land record, I don’t know what configuration it was in either.
you can’t read much into it though as weymouth isn’t especially fast for boats, sailrocket struggled/wasn’t optimal yet went on to greatness
fun thing is that you can‘t just turbo an AC boat go get the record as it all has to be manual power, no battery, or hydraulics.
Jethrow
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I guess any boat they built for a world speedsailing record would be considered an LEQ?
dogwatch
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Not if they'd written the protocol so it wasn't. Which could easily have been done.
JALhazmat
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not at all
Sailing. Aero design. Structural engineering. And, uh... weather prediction.
Sailbydate
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Much more of this rain and, Straya's interior will be as verdant as the, Emerald Isles - rather than a barren wasteland awaiting miners' open cast mines and tailing ranges. That would be pleasant, no?
