ETNZ To Attempt Wind Powered Land Speed Word Record

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Only doubt I have is the way he said it. Something along the lines of
Passed 180kmh
Passed 190kmh
Passed 200kmh several times

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Pushing 200kmh

Why mention 180 and 190 if you have been past 200, and then say "pushing 200" which implies you haven't passed it.
Just seemed a weird way to say it
I'll have a go...
180, 190, 200 were the "gears" he was "getting through"
"Passed 200 km/h several times" is an instantaneous speed
"Pushing 200" is his average over the qualifying distance
 

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It shouldn't be an issue unless he has to make directional changes if it goes too high. It doesn't contribute to the lateral resistance much at all.
Not concerned about lateral resistance.

When the wheel bounces the entire rig shakes, probably disturbing airflow over the wing.
 

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I'll have a go...
180, 190, 200 were the "gears" he was "getting through"
"Passed 200 km/h several times" is an instantaneous speed
"Pushing 200" is his average over the qualifying distance
Maybe though the average only has to be over 3s. Just most people would just say, we exceeded 200 several times, and (most) people could deduce that he also passed 180 and 190. Maybe it's an antipodean thing
 

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Not concerned about lateral resistance.

When the wheel bounces the entire rig shakes, probably disturbing airflow over the wing.
It was like the 1st day they had to learn how to push the craft. He isn’t going to risk flipping it yet and would also be learning how to balance / react to the force’s. I wouldn’t be surprised that come the record run the wheel even touches down once it’s up , but doing so would be incredibly risky as it’s right on the edge of stability.
 

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Maybe though the average only has to be over 3s. Just most people would just say, we exceeded 200 several times, and (most) people could deduce that he also passed 180 and 190. Maybe it's an antipodean thing
So the first time the conditions are decent he's just supposed to go for it? No incremental advances, no testing?
Isn't there a team around who still haven't stepped a mast, let alone gone sailing, because they don't have enough data?
 

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Maybe though the average only has to be over 3s. Just most people would just say, we exceeded 200 several times, and (most) people could deduce that he also passed 180 and 190. Maybe it's an antipodean thing
I didn't see any timing equipment out, just the truck they were giving bearings to miss. Maybe they surprised themselves, and now have to get the official timing gear set up.
Maybe they quietly broke the record unofficially, and just don't want to jinx the real attempt.
 

enigmatically2

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So the first time the conditions are decent he's just supposed to go for it? No incremental advances, no testing?
Isn't there a team around who still haven't stepped a mast, let alone gone sailing, because they don't have enough data?
Of course not. I have no problem with them increasing speed incrementally, just odd to list them.
 
I think Glenn and the team have been pretty clear, they wanted a bit more wind than they have had, and some dry conditions to push to near-record speeds before going for the actual record.

That job is done, so it looks like they are now set for the next time it blows over 20 knots.
 

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This conversation reminds me a bit of the old, "It has to be photoshopped. There's no way that cat can foil" conversation. Prolly the same commentators too. Sad. :cool:
 

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It shouldn't be an issue unless he has to make directional changes if it goes too high. It doesn't contribute to the lateral resistance much at all.
Statically Horonuku’s weight is supported on 4 wheels. When flying the outrigger, the weight is on 3 wheels, so more lateral resistance and in the right place, to leeward.

For me, the clever bit is the two aft wheels which provide the bulk of the weight carrying and lateral resistance. They also provide better directional stability. The front wheel probably only has enough grip for steering. Any more than that, and it would probably upset the helm/steering balance.
 

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The promising weather forecast coupled with reports of a dry lake was enough for the Landspeed team to remobilise within days and get back to the lake to re-rig Horonuku in searing 40-degree temperatures in preparation for the expected 20+ knot SW front on Sunday evening. It was the most positive session for the Land speed team so far, not yet about the timing or clocking official records but identifying obvious elements that can be improved to increase performance to be able to achieve the best speeds possible.
 

The_Alchemist

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Here is the official Greenbird speed record report. Gives you some idea of how it has to be measured, etc.


And here are the rules:


They have to go 1.6 kph above the old record in order for it to be a new record, so they have to hit at least 204.5+ kph to get a new record
 
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Late on Sunday 11 December is looking good for the record. Hopefully the front will come through earlier rather than later. Does Horonuku have nav lights?:


Tomorrow (Wednesday) is looking good for more testing/tuning.
 
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