EV car thread?

[Bagheera]

Do you 'little bit of research' show many petrol cars suddenly combusting for no apparent reason?

Yes, it actually does, roughly 11 times more often per driven mile than a 'spontaneous combustion' from an EV..
This 'inner city boy' is happy with his EV in rural Alaska, with the closest city about 500 miles away without rallies or poodles within the same radius.

I take it you don't have cell phones, cordless tools, a laptop, a tablet, an electric toothbrush or a battery on your boat either? Imagine these spontaneously combusting!

 

[LB 15]

This 'inner city boy' is happy with his EV in rural Alaska, with the closest city about 500 miles away without rallies or poodles within the same radius.

Did they tell you your EV has a range of 500 miles when you bought it? Mate I have a lovely bridge you might be interred in.

 

[Bagheera]

Nope, mine only has 97 miles of range and a tiny little battery, which is plenty as we only have 14 miles of road where I live. Even with a 4000 pound trailer behind it I can still drive up and down the entire road system at least 3 times, also when it is 30 below with a foot of snow.

BTW 'they' did not tell me anything. I'm an engineer and do my own fact checking before I make a decision or before I spout nonsense...

 

[gptyk]

The little bit of research is why you should be skeptical. Do you 'little bit of research' show many petrol cars suddenly combusting for no apparent reason? Don't get me wrong I think EV's are great for you inner city boys. Just perfect for taking your miniature poodles to their grooming appointment. Or getting to that LGPTQ rally.
I just don't want one of the fucking dangerous things anywhere near me.

In the shit hole known as the U.S., 3100+ kia/hyundi gassers are quite well documented as bursting into flame for "no apparent reason." At least 103 injuries and a death resulted. Over a half million recalls. A little bit of research shows that up in seconds. Dunno about worldwide numbers, but it'd be significant. Compare to 19 bolts total. (Yes, normalized rate would be a better comparison, but in not getting paid to calc stats here so fkit)

170000+ vehicles burn in the US per year. Vast majority gassers.

 

[veni vidi vici]

There is only a limited supply of oil on this planet and we are using it a lot faster than it is replenished. That is what makes it so incredibly dumb to burn it in an ICE engine at a well to wheel efficiency of just a little over 10%.

Bullshit !
Ma nature is making it faster than we can pimp it and we have not even found or tapped the massive reserves. If EV vehicles ever become mainstream the battery will only be needed for less than 100 miles when driving off the grid of roads that power the cars as they drive on it, something like that. The “tank” mentality when applied to EV’s is Cro-Magnon think and do.
On top of all that Nuclear Power plants will need to become as common as 7-11 stores

 

[El Borracho]

Bullshit !
Ma nature is making it faster than we can pimp it and we have not even found or tapped the massive reserves. If EV vehicles ever become mainstream the battery will only be needed for less than 100 miles when driving off the grid of roads that power the cars as they drive on it, something like that. The “tank” mentality when applied to EV’s is Cro-Magnon think and do.
On top of all that Nuclear Power plants will need to become as common as 7-11 stores

Heh. No. The easy oil was extracted decades ago. What remains is far more expensive to find and extract. At least four times more expensive to extract, in constant dollars, since WWII. Finding “massive reserves” would be an environmental catastrophe. Take your pick: Traffic, CO2, polar war, spills.

EVs will kill the ICE. Even in freight. Maybe even before the last ignorant, stubborn, regressive, redneck dies.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Heh. No. The easy oil was extracted decades ago. What remains is far more expensive to find and extract. At least four times more expensive to extract, in constant dollars, since WWII. Finding “massive reserves” would be an environmental catastrophe. Take your pick: Traffic, CO2, polar war, spills.

EVs will kill the ICE. Even in freight. Maybe even before the last ignorant, stubborn, regressive, redneck dies.

lol…. Do the math!
Going to exhaust rare earth minerals Long before petroleum
EV’s will not be battery reliant
Hybrid is what the GreenWeenies should be PUSHING!
Freaking ideologues some how think they can fly

 

[justsomeguy!]

Think asteroid mining.

 

[billy backstay]

Saw a Lucid car today. Very impressive looking and I looked at the specs, 1000 hp, 0-60 in 2 secs and a 500 mile range. Tell me again how the ICE is going to remain relevant?

A Rivian buyer got his dream car after a 3-year wait. Days later, the car was dead and he faced a $2,100 bill.​

A Rivian buyer got his dream car after a 3-year wait. Days later, the car was dead and he faced a $2,100 bill.

Chase Merrill's honeymoon phase with his Rivian R1S didn't last long. Two days after it arrived, the electric SUV was bricked in the snow.

news.yahoo.com

 

[justsomeguy!]

Fuck Yahoo.

A Rivian buyer got his dream car after a 3-year wait. Days later, the car was dead and he faced a $2,100 bill.

Chase Merrill's honeymoon phase with his Rivian R1S didn't last long. Two days after it arrived, the electric SUV was bricked in the snow.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Olsonist]

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The towing fee was $2,100.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Think asteroid mining.

Lol and some posters here claim building nuclear power plants are too expensive and not cost effective

 

[veni vidi vici]

This is a great example of how clean burning and efficient ICE vehicles are in 2023. This was typical all over the world and in the USA. Our air quality is many times cleaner today with many many more vehicles than it was in the 60’s. I remember when you could only see the outline of the sun in the orange sky in LA late 60’s. The smell of car and diesel exhaust was normal

 

[Bagheera]

This is a great example of how clean burning and efficient ICE vehicles are in 2023.

So you are willing to be locked in a garage with an ICE motor running in there as well?

 

[veni vidi vici]

So you are willing to be locked in a garage with an ICE motor running in there as well?

Fuck’n IDIOT

 

[Bagheera]

That's what I thought...

 

[veni vidi vici]

That's what I thought...

 

[Bagheera]

Come with something new would you? This story is starting to get old. Is that truly all that you have on how 'bad' EV's are?

 

[d'ranger]

Putting V3 on ignore makes us all better.

 

[Bull City]

I recently made a trip from Annapolis to Asheville. It seemed like it could have been the perfect trip for an EV because I stopped halfway in each direction. We stopped and stayed over at a hotel on the way to Asheville and we stopped halfway for lunch on the way back. Neither the restaurant nor the hotel had chargers. This seems like a big barrier.

On another trip from Annapolis to Connecticut, it seemed that almost every rest station had chargers, but who wants to hang out at a rest stop for the better part of an hour?

Something to consider is not doing a full charge. From what I have read, the last ~20% of charge is the slowest part. YMMV (no pun intended).