Even the Chinese are protesting covidiocy

[Wess]

Had to laugh at this:

China Protests Break Out as Covid Cases Surge and Lockdowns Persist

After a weekend of confrontations between officials and demonstrators, video from two sites in Shanghai and Beijing showed a heavy security presence. Here’s the latest on the situation.

www.nytimes.com

Even the Chinese are getting fed up and protesting covidiocy.

What karma it would be if Xi Jinping the leader of the country that unleashed this on the world was taken down by his own people because of it.

 

[Raz'r]

Imagine if you actually had to experience a real lockdown. Imagine!

 

[d'ranger]

And Wess thinks this is funny. Nothing like getting your jollies from the suffering of others.

 

[Raz'r]

It doesn't help that the chinese vaccine isn't as effective as Moderna or Pfizer.

 

[Chief Stipe]

It doesn't help that the chinese vaccine isn't as effective as Moderna or Pfizer.

But didn't you tell us
that if you locked everyone up that Covid would go away?

Now you are also contradicting yourself. Didn't you say that the Pzifer vaccine only reduces hospitalisations and death I.e. that it won't deliver Zero Covid?

 

[Raz'r]

But didn't you tell us
that if you locked everyone up that Covid would go away?

Now you are also contradicting yourself. Didn't you say that the Pzifer vaccine only reduces hospitalisations and death I.e. that it won't deliver Zero Covid?

Uhh, no.

The 2nd question is untenable. What is "zero covid?"

 

[Grrr...]

But didn't you tell us
that if you locked everyone up that Covid would go away?

Now you are also contradicting yourself. Didn't you say that the Pzifer vaccine only reduces hospitalisations and death I.e. that it won't deliver Zero Covid?

If you locked each person in a separate room with no co-mingled air systems, then yes, eventually none of them would have Covid.

The vaccine does not stop the virus from entering the body. It simply enables your body to better fight it.

In your hurry to try to score points it appears you've made some errors.

While Xi can attempt to keep people off the streets, even in a regime as horrible and repressive as his, he cannot prevent people from gathering. No one is that powerful. So no, even China's draconian government cannot totally defeat the spread of covid. Which is why it is unfortunate they don't have better vaccines.

 

[Chief Stipe]

While Xi can attempt to keep people off the streets, even in a regime as horrible and repressive as his, he cannot prevent people from gathering. No one is that powerful. So no, even China's draconian government cannot totally defeat the spread of covid. Which is why it is unfortunate they don't have better vaccines.

I haven't made any errors. Lockdowns at best suppress spread. They can never eliminate a virus such as Covid even under a draconian regime such as China's. What's more the current mRNA vaccines don't eliminate the virus nor suppress its spread.

 

[Chief Stipe]

Uhh, no.

The 2nd question is untenable. What is "zero covid?"

A policy that China has been pursuing but has failed.

 

[Steam Flyer]

I haven't made any errors. Lockdowns at best suppress spread. They can never eliminate a virus such as Covid even under a draconian regime such as China's. What's more the current mRNA vaccines don't eliminate the virus nor suppress its spread.

??
So, you seem to be saying that if people do not gather and spread covid, it will spread anyway? Does it go thru walls? Is it magic? Is it the stigma of God's disfavor?

Also, the current vaccines DO suppress the spread of Covid. The figure from a few months ago, less than 10% likely to be contagious given similar circumstances to/from a vaccinated person.

 

[Grrr...]

nor suppress its spread.

This is incorrect. The vaccines help the body fight the virus off more quickly, lending itself to a much smaller (or non-existent) period in which the infected are shedding enough virus to be dangerous.

Having a superior vaccine will undoubtedly and absolutely lead to less spread.

 

[Raz'r]

A policy that China has been pursuing but has failed.

So, ask the Chinese.

 

[Chief Stipe]

So, you seem to be saying that if people do not gather and spread covid, it will spread anyway? Does it go thru walls? Is it magic? Is it the stigma of God's disfavor?

You might be able to live in your secluded bubble with food delivered to your door but a large proportion of the population can't. Some of the people who can't produce the food and deliver it to your door.

So your theory and the lockdown theory is that if you isolate everyone for a period of time the virus will die because it has no human host. But you forget that it has been found in other mammalian hosts. You also overlook that it is difficult to determine how long the lockdown should be to eliminate the virus.

For many reasons lockdowns fail.

 

[Chief Stipe]

Also, the current vaccines DO suppress the spread of Covid. The figure from a few months ago, less than 10% likely to be contagious given similar circumstances to/from a vaccinated person.

That doesn't seem to hold up with what we are seeing in the real world.

 

[Chief Stipe]

This is incorrect. The vaccines help the body fight the virus off more quickly, lending itself to a much smaller (or non-existent) period in which the infected are shedding enough virus to be dangerous.

It may for some but not all. From what I've seen from personal experience there was no difference in the time to a negative test between vaccinated vs unvaccinated persons.

 

[Grrr...]

It may for some but not all. From what I've seen from personal experience there was no difference in the time to a negative test between vaccinated vs unvaccinated persons.

Your..... Personal experience. You actually believe your anecdotal experience overrides science.

And it's well known that the tests can test positive for weeks after you are no longer communicable.

I'm actually just a bit speechless that you are trying to use as proof of anything.

 

[LB 15]

It may for some but not all. From what I've seen from personal experience there was no difference in the time to a negative test between vaccinated vs unvaccinated persons.

No doubt you have heard the old saying about how only an idiot keeps doing something the same way and expects a different result? And yet you keep posting the same old shite.

 

[Mid]

Wess thinks this is funny

shallow ain't it .

 

[Wess]

Don’t you have a skirt you should be hiding behind in some basement? 😀

 

[Steam Flyer]

Also, the current vaccines DO suppress the spread of Covid. The figure from a few months ago, less than 10% likely to be contagious given similar circumstances to/from a vaccinated person.

That doesn't seem to hold up with what we are seeing in the real world.

Yes it does.
Of course, that's going on facts and measurements, actual science... not made-up bullshit trying to push a narrative.