F1 2022 - New Cars, Fresh Start

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billy backstay

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Shocking surprise.

Seems they were just starting to become a real threat to Red Bull?

Link from bottom of Mattia thread, Palmer has really got the analysis spot on!!

 
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Seems they were just starting to become a real threat to Red Bull?

Link from bottom of Mattia thread, Palmer has really got the analysis spot on!!

I will check that out at lunch. Thanks. At some point at Ferrari if you don’t win you’re out. Something is not right there. They have the talent to build a good car and actually had a better one than Mercedes all year. Their bad luck that Red Bull cheated and spent more to develop an even better car. With all that they don’t act like winners and are missing a key person/s who can instill confidence and fire folks up to perform Imo. Have for been missing it for years. Frankly it could be the organization just won’t allow a single strong personality like a Wolff to succeed.
 

billy backstay

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I will check that out at lunch. Thanks. At some point at Ferrari if you don’t win you’re out. Something is not right there. They have the talent to build a good car and actually had a better one than Mercedes all year. Their bad luck that Red Bull cheated and spent more to develop an even better car. With all that they don’t act like winners and are missing a key person/s who can instill confidence and fire folks up to perform Imo. Have for been missing it for years. Frankly it could be the organization just won’t allow a single strong personality like a Wolff to succeed.

After watching Palmers analysis it became painfully obvious why Mattia got the boot.
 

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After watching Palmers analysis it became painfully obvious why Mattia got the boot.
Jolyon looked at the numbers but he didnt say get rid of anyone. I’m probably the only one here to defend MB.. he was missing upper management support from John Elkins and CEO Vigna.
If he had the continued support from power broker Marchionne who unfortunately died as he was pushing the team onwards, or CEO Camilleri who was Binotos biggest supporter but retired from Covid, I believe SF would have been successfull this year.
Marchionne pushed them into the engine grey area which cost them a season but ultimately gave them probably the best engine this year. Vigna has restarted the Ferrari revolving door syndrome that has beset them over the years, and lost them James Allison..
MB was also a great Chief Tech guy, so even if they decided to go with another a Team Principle they should have done everything to keep him in that role.
 

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A good explanation of the Team Principal moves!


It doesn’t sound like anyone is going on Gardening leave!
 
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ro!

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A good explanation of the Team Principal moves!


It doesn’t sound like anyone is going on Gardening leave!
A good explanation of the Team Principal moves!


It doesn’t sound like anyone is going on Gardening leave!
Whilst MB, Vassuer and Seidle were somewhat predictable, Caputo and his sidekick were a surprise.
Did they get pushed out or did they see something coming they didn’t like!
If Porsche are involved you would think Caputo with his VW connections would be a fit..
Could this be Andrettis entry into F1?
 

billy backstay

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Whilst MB, Vassuer and Seidle were somewhat predictable, Caputo and his sidekick were a surprise.
Did they get pushed out or did they see something coming they didn’t like!
If Porsche are involved you would think Caputo with his VW connections would be a fit..
Could this be Andrettis entry into F1?

That would be great! Are you just guessing, or any gossip out there?
 

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