Fareast 19R

[J88 Alchemy]

Hi,

Does anyone have any info on the Fareast 19 R in terms of performance, build quality, etc.?

Other than the J/70, what other sport boats exist that:

• Perform well
  
• Can be ramp launched (retractable keel)
  
• Are less than 40K
  
• Range from 18 - 24'
  

Thanks!

 

[NextExit]

Viper 640. See www.viper640.org.  

 

[J88 Alchemy]

I know a lot about the Viper; too wet and sporty / athletic.  I want to daysail too in some degree of comfort.

The 640 is a great boat, but I'm too "old" for the Viper.

 

[timber]

Well the i550 fits the bill except for too sporty, wet, athletic, too. BUT, There are a couple for sale at 15 to 25% of your budget. Just by the appearance the the Fairest 19R looks too wet, sporty athletic , too.  Try to find an Ultimate 20. I think there was one in the Colorado craigslist recently. Also an Open 5.70 in th Colorado Westslope Craigslist.

 

[Varan]

Sailed the Fareast 23r. Nice boat, but a lot of wetted surface to overcome when the wind lightens. For a 19 footer, VXone would be my choice.

 

[familysailor]

Seascape 18:





Seascape 18's   Main dimensions






Hull length


5.5 m




Beam (width)


2.37 m




Draft


1.5 m




Draft when appendages up


0.15 m




Light displacement


500 kg




Ballast weight


125 kg




Ballast type


Cast iron









Seascape 18's   Rig and sails






Upwind sail area


23.7 sqm




Downwind sail area


46.5 sqm




Mainsail area


14.5 sqm




Genoa area


9.2 sqm




Asymetric spinnaker area


32 sqm




Code 0 area


19 sqm




Rigging type


Sloop Marconi (square top mainsail) 7/8




Rotating spars


No




Mast position


Deck stepped mast




Spars


Mast and boom in Carbon fiber




Standing rigging


1x19 strand wire






 






Seascape 18's   Performances






Upwind sail area to displacementi


37.62




Downwind sail area to displacementi


73.81




Ballast ratioi


25 %







Fareast 19:



   

 

[NextExit]

I know a lot about the Viper; too wet and sporty / athletic.  I want to daysail too in some degree of comfort.

The 640 is a great boat, but I'm too "old" for the Viper.

You may want to take a look at/charter one of the Flying Tiger 7.5’s. 

 

[Iceman22]

Check out the RS21. We have boats available for Charter at Annapolis NOOD. Chicago NOOD and Marblehead NOOD.

https://www.rssailing.com/uk-specific/feature-rs21/

 

[EasyRider7]

650kg is bloody heavy for a 19ft sportsboat.

 

[rgeek]

650kg is bloody heavy for a 19ft sportsboat.

 Do we have to do that again?

 

[timber]

I am probably wrong but for family fun and Mom's peace of mind I'd say that the Sail Area/ Displacement ration should be lower than 40 or so to give a guide as to how comfortably a boat can be singlehanded. Just offhand the Flying Tiger, RS21, Ultimate 20 genre would fit pretty well. 

If I remember correctly the i550 SA/D is 42 and downwind is 112.  

 

[Varan]

The Open 5.70, if you can find one, is also a very stable 19 footer that can still give some thrilling rides.

 

[arr4ws]

ever considered a melges 24? found some very well equiped one for less than your budget.

 

[Streetwise]

There was an Open 5.70 in Shelburne Bay for a while; one of the Dealer.com guys owned it. He might still have it, but never raced it.

There is or was also a Rocket 22 on Lake Magog or Memphremagog. I think the owner might be on this site.

Cheers

 

[sailhmb]

The VX One fits your requirements.  There are fleets in Toronto and Boston who you contact for a check ride.

 

[darth reapius]

I know a lot about the Viper; too wet and sporty / athletic.  I want to daysail too in some degree of comfort.

The 640 is a great boat, but I'm too "old" for the Viper.

640 isn't a great boat, ownership was less than disappointing.

Terrible keel-box.

Bad lifting points compared to similar boats.

Not the best keel lifting system.

Gnav sucks.

There are far better boats in it's market.

 

[NextExit]

640 isn't a great boat, ownership was less than disappointing.

Terrible keel-box.

Bad lifting points compared to similar boats.

Not the best keel lifting system.

Gnav sucks.

There are far better boats in it's market.

Sorry to hear about your experience.  I'm not sure what hull# you owned but there have been improvements to the keel box, the lifting points and keel lift work just fine IMHO and I have no problem with Gnav.

 

[darth reapius]

Sorry to hear about your experience.  I'm not sure what hull# you owned but there have been improvements to the keel box, the lifting points and keel lift work just fine IMHO and I have no problem with Gnav.

It was a new boat, many years ago now (7 maybe, my memories fading), we had to do major keel box work after only 6 months of use. 

GNAV meant you couldn't keep the main on the boat when down, same with the jib system.

When you were sailing as much as we do when taking it seriously, it's nice to be able to keep the main on the boom, jib furled (if there is only one) and keep the kite rigged, and then hoist/drop the boat AND keel using a crane.

Instead the damn keel still had to be lifted/dropped manually, then lifting straps were used to pick the boat up, and they had to be removed and stored.

Compared to an almost identical boat we had before (but we swapped in the hopes of 1 design) the launch and retrieve time was 30-45 mins instead of the 15 mins from the previous boat.

So our experience was 1-1.5 hours prep/de-rig time per sail, instead of 30 mins, and the new boat required more work on it in 1 year of ownership compared to 3 with the previous used sport boat.

It also wasn't the 3 man boat we were sold, it was a 4 man boat in our conditions, so what we really were looking for was a VX one at the time, which didn't exist yet.

 

[Fareast28R CAN2]

We are doing preparing a Fareast 19R clinic next Spring in Montreal. It is a great boat and it fits exactly what you mentioned. Send me a message if you want to know more about this clinic @J88 Alchemy