Pipe Dream
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Can you let me know please what the build quality is like, please? I am just deciding whether to get on a plane and look at a 19r and any info from a current owner would be fantastic.
Fareast 19R
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Fareast28R CAN2
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Hi @Pipe Dream
We currently don't have one in stock but we know a sailor on sailing anarchy that has been doing the most intense research for the kind of boat you are looking into. He has put all his results in an excel sheet. Send me an email to [email protected] and I will connect you with him. He will be able to tell you why he wants a 19R instead of the other boat. *He is not affiliated with us.
We can also chat about quality. The finish on the boat is phenomenal and you can feel it when you sail it. As a reference, we have a 28R for sale #16 out of 450. Except for the fitting the owner added to the boat, it looks just like new and it is as stiff as the first day. Fareast used materials that are up to twice the price of regular material for their boat.
Let me know where you are located and I will try to find someone one is living close to you.
Best,
Martin Robitaille
We currently don't have one in stock but we know a sailor on sailing anarchy that has been doing the most intense research for the kind of boat you are looking into. He has put all his results in an excel sheet. Send me an email to [email protected] and I will connect you with him. He will be able to tell you why he wants a 19R instead of the other boat. *He is not affiliated with us.
We can also chat about quality. The finish on the boat is phenomenal and you can feel it when you sail it. As a reference, we have a 28R for sale #16 out of 450. Except for the fitting the owner added to the boat, it looks just like new and it is as stiff as the first day. Fareast used materials that are up to twice the price of regular material for their boat.
Let me know where you are located and I will try to find someone one is living close to you.
Best,
Martin Robitaille
WCB
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There was a nice FT 7.5 for sale in San Diego asking $18,000 or so. I haven't seen the ad in a few weeks. A friend who has one said it should sell for $13-15k because there are no fleets.
WCB
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The price list from FarEast Canada make it appear that a new 19R would be less expensive than a used Seascape 18, if you could find one. Am I reading things correctly?
In addition, I know the Seascape is excellent for single handing, anyone know about the 19R solo?
Thanks
In addition, I know the Seascape is excellent for single handing, anyone know about the 19R solo?
Thanks
Fareast28R CAN2
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@europa
It would depend on the condition of the Seascape we are talking about but yes, the price on our website is valid and very competitive.
You can sail the Fareast 28R double-handed. A Fareast 19R can be used with the same principle to be sailed single-handed.
We have one slot left to order a Fareast 19R with the early winter discount (valid until February 14th).
Give us a call
514-702-3514
Best,
Martin
It would depend on the condition of the Seascape we are talking about but yes, the price on our website is valid and very competitive.
You can sail the Fareast 28R double-handed. A Fareast 19R can be used with the same principle to be sailed single-handed.
We have one slot left to order a Fareast 19R with the early winter discount (valid until February 14th).
Give us a call
514-702-3514
Best,
Martin
WCB
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Great little boats. I crewed on a couple of them for three years in a row. They were holding their value well but the fleet seems to be getting a little quiet these days. Definitely easy to trailer and launch. We towed one from Salt Lake to San Diego with my 4Runner V6, not perfect, but good enough.
PurpleOnion
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The U20 has been around for 25 years and is a solid, strong, well behaved, fun to sail boat that meets the requirements listed in the original post. Cost will be below $20k, possibly below$15k depending on the boat. Before continuing the U20 commercial, what are looking for in addition to what the original poster asked about? Along those lines, what are you looking to avoid?
Water Spirit
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Happy owner of a Fareast 19R in Australia here. We've had the boat for 6 months, bought it brand new just before COVID-19 hit. I did quite a bit of sailing on the larger 28R before. Loved the bigger boat so when an offer appeared for a 19R we snapped it up. Bought it with two other friends, we drafted and signed a simple syndicate / shared ownership agreement.
We only had one opportunity to race it at a club before COVID-19 restrictions kicked in and all racing stopped. Have since sailed it regularly single-handed & double-handed and recently with the restrictions easing we started doing some training with 3 or 4 onboard. No problem sailing it 2 up. Ideal crew for racing is 3 or 4. I did a few single-handed laps around the local islands and haven't had any issues so far, even managed to sail with the kite. The tiller locks in to provide some self-steering and then you can balance the boat with sails and your own body weight. We opted for a furler for the jib so that makes it extra practical. I've even taken it out (solo) for an overnight trip to another island, anchored, slept inside rather than in the cockpit because of mosquitoes and sailed back next day. So far sailed it with friends, husband and a bunch of young kids and they all enjoyed it.
We have a trailer with an extension bar and guide posts so it's super easy to launch & retrieve with a family car. If sailing with regular crew we have the boat in and out of water in about 30 minutes, if I'm getting it ready solo it's about 1hr.
Love it so far and looking forward to more racing in the next season.
We only had one opportunity to race it at a club before COVID-19 restrictions kicked in and all racing stopped. Have since sailed it regularly single-handed & double-handed and recently with the restrictions easing we started doing some training with 3 or 4 onboard. No problem sailing it 2 up. Ideal crew for racing is 3 or 4. I did a few single-handed laps around the local islands and haven't had any issues so far, even managed to sail with the kite. The tiller locks in to provide some self-steering and then you can balance the boat with sails and your own body weight. We opted for a furler for the jib so that makes it extra practical. I've even taken it out (solo) for an overnight trip to another island, anchored, slept inside rather than in the cockpit because of mosquitoes and sailed back next day. So far sailed it with friends, husband and a bunch of young kids and they all enjoyed it.
We have a trailer with an extension bar and guide posts so it's super easy to launch & retrieve with a family car. If sailing with regular crew we have the boat in and out of water in about 30 minutes, if I'm getting it ready solo it's about 1hr.
Love it so far and looking forward to more racing in the next season.
Fareast28R CAN2
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Hi @astro,
The timing of your questions if great. I just delivered the first batch of 19R in North America in time for their pre-launch.
We also did a sailing test of the 19R and our media sailboat for the pictures was a J70...!
Beyond the typical compliments about how it looks modern and sexy, everyone who sailed one or seen one agrees that it is a fun dry fast boat that is the perfect fit for an independent sailor that wants to be able to do everything himself. The way the deck is layout, you can be at the helm and adjust the gennaker, the jib or the mainsail.
I am a true 28R lover but it was not for my passion for speed, the 19R would be my boat of choice without any doubt. You can sail it alone or up to 4 people. You can put the mast up by yourself. It can surf and get planning. There is a lot of simplicity and fun overall on this boat.
Credits for the pictures: Shannon Galea
The timing of your questions if great. I just delivered the first batch of 19R in North America in time for their pre-launch.
We also did a sailing test of the 19R and our media sailboat for the pictures was a J70...!
Beyond the typical compliments about how it looks modern and sexy, everyone who sailed one or seen one agrees that it is a fun dry fast boat that is the perfect fit for an independent sailor that wants to be able to do everything himself. The way the deck is layout, you can be at the helm and adjust the gennaker, the jib or the mainsail.
I am a true 28R lover but it was not for my passion for speed, the 19R would be my boat of choice without any doubt. You can sail it alone or up to 4 people. You can put the mast up by yourself. It can surf and get planning. There is a lot of simplicity and fun overall on this boat.
Credits for the pictures: Shannon Galea
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Water Spirit
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@Fareast28R CAN2 do you know how many Fareast 19Rs you have across Canada & USA now? I connected with one other owner from US, I think he's from Pennsylvania.
Fareast28R CAN2
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@Water SpiritThis was the pre-launch for us. There are only two at this moment as they were imported with some ribs. One of the 19R owner is from Pennsylvania. Really nice sailor. He was looking into that kind of boat for a very long time. We are looking to get four to eight 19R next year for the full launch. It is a bit hard to estimate with the covid but without any advertisement over the summer and the COVID, a lot of people are still looking into the 19R. The biggest challenge we have now is that most marinas are at full capacity so it is hard to bring a new boat in if you don't have a spot.
Water Spirit
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Cool, the guy from Pennsylvania got in touch with me over instagram after I posted some photos from our test sail way back in January and we connected. Our boat was delivered in February and then he asked me a few questions about how it was going. He mentioned his was delivered recently. COVID-19 really put a break on many things but hey, we've been enjoying our little boat regardless. We tend to get a lot of comments when launching about how sexy or fast it looks. Even had some elderly lady walk over and exclaim she's a beauty. Had to giggle at that.
Otherwise I think we're in a similar situation in Australia. There are another four 19Rs up in Darwin and they sail from their club too but that's about 3000km away from where we are. There's a few more 28Rs in the country which is how I got introduced to Fareast boats and hey, I liked it. I'm not a very experienced sailor but I love the thrill of it - simple but fast, versatility of being able to sail it hard or take it easy.
Otherwise I think we're in a similar situation in Australia. There are another four 19Rs up in Darwin and they sail from their club too but that's about 3000km away from where we are. There's a few more 28Rs in the country which is how I got introduced to Fareast boats and hey, I liked it. I'm not a very experienced sailor but I love the thrill of it - simple but fast, versatility of being able to sail it hard or take it easy.
Streetwise
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J88 Alchemy, whose post you quoted in your reply, was not a dealer. He was a friend of mine and a fellow sailor on Lake Champlain. He sadly passed away this spring from a brain tumor.astro said:
Congratulations on insulting a dead man on the internet. I will leave it at that.
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J88 Alchemy
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Thanks Streetwise. Actually I'm his former boat partner and I appreciate you sticking up for both DB and me. It's been a very sad summer. I originally made the post when DB and I were both exploring sport boats after selling our J/88. I was doing some research for both of us on the Fareast as well as other new designs.
Astro, not sure why you thought a legitimate question was an ad, or why you would be so abrasive. The world is F&*[email protected] because kindness and civility seem to be disappearing. I haven't made a post on SA in a long time for a couple of reasons, but one reason is the negativity of some posters.
Thanks again Streetwise, I know we all miss DB terribly.
Streetwise
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Varan
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question 1, way is the boom so long in photo1? The main does not look reefed. (We can talk about trim later)
Question 2, I forgot (darn phones take to long to peck stuff in).
How does she sail in say under 10? Always liked the 28, but I only sailed the 24, and she did not like anything under 10, or so. Lots of wetted surface that just did not want to release. Fat boats of less weight seem to survive fine, but the fr24 I sailed just would not get up and go. I really like the concept, design and looks. Just needs to lose some weight imho (don't we all).
Water Spirit
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Hi @Varan
1. I think the boom looks so long because of two things. The camera is wide angle so it really skews the image and it looks weird. The outhaul is perhaps eased a little too much, foot too open. You can see the outhaul position numbers on the boom and it's sitting at around 4-5, a little too loose I think even though very light wind.
The photo is from one of my earlier solos back in March and I'm trying to bag the kite if that makes more sense. I'm looking at that channel marker probably thinking I better pull the kite down before I get there. Initially we also had the outhaul line run to a horn cleat on the mast which was pretty stupid to adjust. We changed that to having a cleat on the boom and we now run the outhaul line straight back along the boom, though a little cleat under the boom, then a bungee cord tied at the back of the boom so it's much easier to adjust and it stays neatly in place. I have photos somewhere if anyone's interested.
2. In under 10kn you can expect to get somewhere between 60-75% boat speed compared to wind speed. Not much difference between upwind and downwind. I suppose like other boats with fat bottoms, you need to try lift the stern out so it's not dragging through the water. Crew weight as far forward as possible and to leeward to give it a bit of a heel and reduce the wetted surface. Also helps of course if your crew is light. I think if you have enough wind to keep the kite full, she glides along quite effortlessly. From experience so far, if you have 4kn+ breeze she moves, under that it's really not much fun but I think that's probably the case with any boat right. We're lucky here in Moreton Bay that we almost always have 10kn+. Lighter winds in winters and this autumn/winter we had lots of very light days.
1. I think the boom looks so long because of two things. The camera is wide angle so it really skews the image and it looks weird. The outhaul is perhaps eased a little too much, foot too open. You can see the outhaul position numbers on the boom and it's sitting at around 4-5, a little too loose I think even though very light wind.
The photo is from one of my earlier solos back in March and I'm trying to bag the kite if that makes more sense. I'm looking at that channel marker probably thinking I better pull the kite down before I get there. Initially we also had the outhaul line run to a horn cleat on the mast which was pretty stupid to adjust. We changed that to having a cleat on the boom and we now run the outhaul line straight back along the boom, though a little cleat under the boom, then a bungee cord tied at the back of the boom so it's much easier to adjust and it stays neatly in place. I have photos somewhere if anyone's interested.
2. In under 10kn you can expect to get somewhere between 60-75% boat speed compared to wind speed. Not much difference between upwind and downwind. I suppose like other boats with fat bottoms, you need to try lift the stern out so it's not dragging through the water. Crew weight as far forward as possible and to leeward to give it a bit of a heel and reduce the wetted surface. Also helps of course if your crew is light. I think if you have enough wind to keep the kite full, she glides along quite effortlessly. From experience so far, if you have 4kn+ breeze she moves, under that it's really not much fun but I think that's probably the case with any boat right. We're lucky here in Moreton Bay that we almost always have 10kn+. Lighter winds in winters and this autumn/winter we had lots of very light days.
