Fastnet 2021

terrafirma

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Skorpios has the option of going South of the last TSS zone or cutting through the middle like Ultim Emotion, looking at the angles for her I'd be tempted to go around the most Southerly TSS zone but that's purely based on the wind overlay as to what's really happening on the boat. 

 
Skorpios has the option of going South of the last TSS zone or cutting through the middle like Ultim Emotion, looking at the angles for her I'd be tempted to go around the most Southerly TSS zone but that's purely based on the wind overlay as to what's really happening on the boat. 
Wind and forecast wind is critical to all entrants and it appears to be fading into the future. Tidal Currents in this part of the world are also incredibly important to consider, and all competitors should be setting themselves up at the Scilly Isles for their approach to the Alderney Race and their final push towards the finish line. The Alderney race will be flowing at up to 9.5knots at times, many boats wont be able to sail that fast if they find themselves going against it. 

Skorpios are sure to have routing software to bring it all together with forecast winds and currents based on the known boat polars.

Here is what the tide is doing now for all entrants, courtesy of Tidetech Marine Data

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Sidecar

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Compare the Tidetech data with what the tracker is currently (sorry) showing……

It is roughly slack water in Guernsey now and about to flood, current wise..

 

eastcoastlow

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Sodebo looks to have stopped about 12nm from the finish? Been doing circles for a little while... Ran aground or broken something?

Edit: they are going again now, must have been battling the tide or lack of wind for a while.

 
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Compare the Tidetech data with what the tracker is currently (sorry) showing……

It is roughly slack water in Guernsey now and about to flood, current wise..
Looks like the Tracker using Windy shows the Tide ebbing (east to west) by all account the tide is flooding now (west to east). One of them is right, the other is not. I would trust Tidetech, since that is what they do. 

 

Afrayedknot

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Looks like Rambler cannot read the SIs, sack the naviguessor?

I imagine the bowman would have told them which way to go but as per usual the bowman (who knows everything) isn't listened to by the apparent "brains trust"! Haha
I want to be a fly on the wall when they realize their error. Maybe Salter knows something we don’t. (Hopefully for him) But if he pooched it this bad I’d expect him to not only get fired but it would be admirable to forgo your pay for the race. So in the realm of 1500-2500 a day. 

 

Jethrow

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So it seems pretty obvious that they cut the wrong side of the TSS.

Does this require a protest from a fellow competitor or is it an RC/ Jury DSQ?

The opportunity for a face-saving RET has probably passed?

 

oioi

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You can always not declare and retire are cruising the finish line. 

I did that once after a fellow competitor kindly pointed out i had not sailed the correct course. Fortunately it was not the Fastnet.

 

JL92S

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I think they’ll get over it, not like they’re in a line honours position and they don’t have to please anyone except George. This isn’t as bad as when Phaedo rounded the wrong island in the middle sea race costing them the race. Sometimes these things need context

 

Afrayedknot

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I think they’ll get over it, not like they’re in a line honours position and they don’t have to please anyone except George. This isn’t as bad as when Phaedo rounded the wrong island in the middle sea race costing them the race. Sometimes these things need context
Yeah. (For context) How pleased would you be if someone couldn’t verify the course whilst paying I dunno 50-100k a day for the boat to sail? It’s not just the dailies... Its yard days, shipping, maintenance. My guess is you’re close to 6 figures a day to sail that boat and you can’t figure out the 5 defined marks of the course? Again. They may know something we don’t but then again, no one else has done what they did. 

 

aussieinlondon

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I think they’ll get over it, not like they’re in a line honours position and they don’t have to please anyone except George. This isn’t as bad as when Phaedo rounded the wrong island in the middle sea race costing them the race. Sometimes these things need context
they will have to drop the selling price on rambler after this race .. 

 

Sidecar

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Looks like the Tracker using Windy shows the Tide ebbing (east to west) by all account the tide is flooding now (west to east). One of them is right, the other is not. I would trust Tidetech, since that is what they do. 
The clue was given with the Guernsey (St Peter Port) data…… Tidetech is more correct.

 
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terrafirma

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Yeah. (For context) How pleased would you be if someone couldn’t verify the course whilst paying I dunno 50-100k a day for the boat to sail? It’s not just the dailies... Its yard days, shipping, maintenance. My guess is you’re close to 6 figures a day to sail that boat and you can’t figure out the 5 defined marks of the course? Again. They may know something we don’t but then again, no one else has done what they did. 
BB would be on a pretty penny that's for sure.! I wonder if BB offers a service "No Win No Fee.!"  :D  I watched their track and certainly rounded the mark and went straight back the way they come obviously looking for more leverage at gaining. It's gone lighter now and Skorpios is creating her own apparent wind and running down the Multi Ultime Emotion. Love to know what it's blowing if Skorpios is going at 13-14 Knots at her current angle it would be under 10 knots I'm guessing?

 




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