Voyageur
Super Anarchist
when is Cash Patel going to be questioned by the GJ?
FBI storms Mar a Lago
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justsomeguy!
Super Anarchist
Heh.
Drove one of those double handed from NYC to Seattle many years ago. 56 hours. Great ride. Those fold down seats let us go 4 on/4 off all the way across. Just stopped for gas and pancakes. The Sambo's in Montana still had it's full-on racist storyboard above the counter of the little black kid turning the tiger into butter.
billy backstay
Backstay, never bought a suit, never went to Vegas
Kash granted immunity
Patel is expected to testify soon in the case, NBC reported.
Patel's testimony is considered crucial to answering the question of whether Trump declassified any of the documents he took with him to his Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago. FBI agents removed thousands of government documents during a raid of Trump's property in August, including more than 100 that bore classification markings.
Trump has claimed that he declassified all the documents he took with him before he left office, but so far the aides who have testified before a grand jury have said they saw no evidence that Trump declassified anything. Presidents have broad powers to declassify documents, but declassification orders must follow a procedure, and there is no indication that Trump ever initiated this procedure before he took the documents with him.
Patel, however, claimed in an August interview with The Wall Street Journal that he had personally witnessed Trump verbally declassify documents.
Patel also indicated that Trump wanted the documents to be made public because the former president believed the records supported his claim that he had been unjustly targeted by the Justice Department over his campaign's ties to Russia.
"It had to do with Russiagate. It had to do with the Hillary email scandal. It had to do with a whole lot of other stuff," Patel told the Journal. "And [Trump] said, 'This is all declassified.'"
But when Patel was called later to testify before the grand jury in October, he reportedly did not make the same assertions. Instead, he repeatedly invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination.
In a case that hinges on whether Trump mishandled state secrets, the question of whether the documents marked classified were in fact state secrets is pivotal.
Patel served on the National Security Council during the Trump administration, and in the weeks following the 2020 presidential election, he became an influential voice arguing that the president should not accept his election loss to President Joe Biden.
Patel remained on Trump's staff after the former president relocated to Florida, one of the few senior level aides to do so. This spring, Patel was given a seat on the board of Trump Media and Technology Group, the company behind Trump's social media platform, Truth Social.
But a few months later, he and Trump and a group of Trump loyalists all left the board of the beleaguered company, which is currently the target of an investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Trump advisor Kash Patel granted immunity to testify in Mar-a-Lago documents case
Christina Wilkie - 1h ago- Trump adviser Kash Patel has been granted immunity by the Justice Department to testify in the Mar-a-Lago documents case, NBC News confirmed.
- Patel's testimony is considered crucial to answering the question of whether or not Trump declassified any of the documents he took with him to his Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago. Patel says he heard Trump verbally order the government secrets declassified.
- Patel is expected to testify soon in the case, NBC reported.
Patel is expected to testify soon in the case, NBC reported.
Patel's testimony is considered crucial to answering the question of whether Trump declassified any of the documents he took with him to his Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago. FBI agents removed thousands of government documents during a raid of Trump's property in August, including more than 100 that bore classification markings.
Trump has claimed that he declassified all the documents he took with him before he left office, but so far the aides who have testified before a grand jury have said they saw no evidence that Trump declassified anything. Presidents have broad powers to declassify documents, but declassification orders must follow a procedure, and there is no indication that Trump ever initiated this procedure before he took the documents with him.
Patel, however, claimed in an August interview with The Wall Street Journal that he had personally witnessed Trump verbally declassify documents.
Patel also indicated that Trump wanted the documents to be made public because the former president believed the records supported his claim that he had been unjustly targeted by the Justice Department over his campaign's ties to Russia.
"It had to do with Russiagate. It had to do with the Hillary email scandal. It had to do with a whole lot of other stuff," Patel told the Journal. "And [Trump] said, 'This is all declassified.'"
But when Patel was called later to testify before the grand jury in October, he reportedly did not make the same assertions. Instead, he repeatedly invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination.
In a case that hinges on whether Trump mishandled state secrets, the question of whether the documents marked classified were in fact state secrets is pivotal.
Patel served on the National Security Council during the Trump administration, and in the weeks following the 2020 presidential election, he became an influential voice arguing that the president should not accept his election loss to President Joe Biden.
Patel remained on Trump's staff after the former president relocated to Florida, one of the few senior level aides to do so. This spring, Patel was given a seat on the board of Trump Media and Technology Group, the company behind Trump's social media platform, Truth Social.
But a few months later, he and Trump and a group of Trump loyalists all left the board of the beleaguered company, which is currently the target of an investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Ex Machina
Super Anarchist
Shit he could probably do with immortality too , he should avoid tea and keep an eye out for black range rovers
Leeroy Jenkins
Super Anarchist
I thought we were way past this.
The Main Man
Super Anarchist
No, but I bet you knew that already!
billy backstay
Backstay, never bought a suit, never went to Vegas
Well, I think I posted that weeks ago???
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
If they weren't a General then holding onto their rank after retirement is nothing but pretension.
There is little that is sadder than an old man wanting to be addressed as "Captain" or "Major". All it does is emphasize the fact they were passed over.
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
Hmm, there are possible exceptions. I know a number of Navy Chiefs who are called "Chief" by everyone except their wives and parents, because that's what they get programmed to answer to.
Leeroy Jenkins
Super Anarchist
The Chief stays the Chief.
Capitalization is intentional.
Capitalization is intentional.
P_Wop
Super Anarchist
In Britain it used to be (may still be) quite normal for retired officers to be addressed by their last rank. Yacht Club committees, for example, were littered with a bunch of disused Major this, Captain that, and Brigadier whatever. Good people however, putting in a lot of organizational energy into the Club for free.
Until the politics change. Then it’s AMF.
The Main Man
Super Anarchist
When they leave the armed forces they are allowed to choose to “keep” the rank or revert to Mr, Mrs, etc. My dad didn‘t keep his rank when he left the RN which I thought strange at the time but now I think was probably the right move.
Blue Crab
benthivore
My Army Col bud doesn't seem to mind being called "Col" tho he's never suggested it. He loves folks knowing he was an airborne ranger however judging by his truck stickers.
Ex Machina
Super Anarchist
Right so what about if the legions of ex service mentioned above are filing an affidavit ? Do they call themselves Colonel Custer sawmill operator or colonel Custer (ret) sawmill operator ? .
no disrespect intended to colonels or sawmill operators or custers
βhyde
Super Anarchist
My brother-in-law was a master chief. Do I need to address him as Master Chief BIL? What about a private or a lieutenant? I don't even refer to my doctors as DR. Seems a little silly to me.
