FBI storms Mar a Lago

nolatom

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What do you believe would have happened, if Trump had succeeded on Jan 6th 2021?
But he didn’t succeed. Why are we upping the ante a thousandfold?

Mar a Lago is a near-nothingburger to date, if it weren’t, we’d have heard about it from some from some State Department leakers or investigative political types. Let’s not play “Seven Days in May” in reverse over this one unless some evidence of actual national- league harm to the country’s national interests is discovered.
 

Stingray~

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I think he really thought he had a right to keep them, like a little kid with a stolen toy.
Agreed on this but the question about ‘Why’ he went to such great lengths, what the intention was, is the bigger mystery.

Smith is apparently going after Mango’s foreign business dealings, and as a part of the MAL docs investigation. They must be trying to figure this out too.
 

Stingray~

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… unless some evidence of actual national- league harm to the country’s national interests is discovered.
…. There have been other classified docs cases that resulted in prison time already. Mango broke those same laws a thousand times over, he is fucked!

This is not some ‘political witch-hunt’ it is the law.
 

Go Left

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But he didn’t succeed. Why are we upping the ante a thousandfold?

Mar a Lago is a near-nothingburger to date, if it weren’t, we’d have heard about it from some from some State Department leakers or investigative political types. Let’s not play “Seven Days in May” in reverse over this one unless some evidence of actual national- league harm to the country’s national interests is discovered.
You do your best work on your knees, don't you?

Just like the hooker from Colorado.
 

Stingray~

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After taking an early-retirement offer during the pandemic and having too much time now, I have watched an unhealthy amount of coverage about the various facets of the legal cases lined up against Mango. Yes, what I watch are left-leaning but they include not just opinion but also facts of the cases, much of it in already publicly available court filings. Let alone the statements to the media, by ex-Mango lawyers and such.

On several fronts, including criminal fronts? The guy is fucked!
 

Steam Flyer

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But he didn’t succeed. Why are we upping the ante a thousandfold?

Mar a Lago is a near-nothingburger to date, if it weren’t, we’d have heard about it from some from some State Department leakers or investigative political types. Let’s not play “Seven Days in May” in reverse over this one unless some evidence of actual national- league harm to the country’s national interests is discovered.

I disagree strongly. This is not an anti-Republican thing, it's a pro-America thing.

What -IS- "America" to you?

Is it a land where the elected President can put his own personally loyal thugs into office?
Well, technically no, but Presidents have done so even if the system discourages it.

Can the elected President muscle aside the law, put people he hates in jail or have them killed? Start wars? Do whatever he likes with public funds?
Again, technically no. Our system is supposed to run by law.

Can the elected President make himself King? That is certainly not what George Washington had in mind. That is totally and completely against anything the Constitution ever tried so say.

Problem: our system, our laws, are operated by people.
When people don't follow the law scrupulously ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF PUBLIC TRUST, then guess what happens. It falls apart.

Trump and his pals just threw sand in the life-support, blew open the air locks, and are laughing at the impending implosion of our system. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who would perfectly happy with a President-For-Life and a corrupt dictatorship. Apparently, about 35% of voters.

This is not "meh"
 

MauiPunter

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Can we please give Trump the Rosenburg treatment already (sorry Sol)? That will also have the net effect of pulling more crazies from hiding and we can take care of them expediently. We need to squash this rebellion and quickly.
 

hasher

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What if TFG wins again and has that quasi-criminal/fascist SCOTUS to bless his actions?

I'm not nearly as optimistic as you.

In fact I'm scared shitless over what is going on in the States these days - it's coming apart at the seams.
Sloopy, you are an old man.

The murder rate is up, but not as high as it was when I went into the incarceration business.
 

Raz'r

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I disagree strongly. This is not an anti-Republican thing, it's a pro-America thing.

What -IS- "America" to you?

Is it a land where the elected President can put his own personally loyal thugs into office?
Well, technically no, but Presidents have done so even if the system discourages it.

Can the elected President muscle aside the law, put people he hates in jail or have them killed? Start wars? Do whatever he likes with public funds?
Again, technically no. Our system is supposed to run by law.

Can the elected President make himself King? That is certainly not what George Washington had in mind. That is totally and completely against anything the Constitution ever tried so say.

Problem: our system, our laws, are operated by people.
When people don't follow the law scrupulously ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF PUBLIC TRUST, then guess what happens. It falls apart.

Trump and his pals just threw sand in the life-support, blew open the air locks, and are laughing at the impending implosion of our system. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who would perfectly happy with a President-For-Life and a corrupt dictatorship. Apparently, about 35% of voters.

This is not "meh"
There was a time, not so long ago, when Rs and Ds saw the danger of a leader with too much staying power, FDR, and implemented term limits on the prez. I guess Rs didn’t really see the problem as a threat yo the republic, just that it was a D.
 

Steam Flyer

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There was a time, not so long ago, when Rs and Ds saw the danger of a leader with too much staying power, FDR, and implemented term limits on the prez. I guess Rs didn’t really see the problem as a threat yo the republic, just that it was a D.

TeamR! knows who the real enemy is.
 

Sol Rosenberg

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Whoopsie Daisy.




couple that with Habba Babba Ding Dong‘s failure to do the search she attested that she had done and it’s almost as if the lawyers have been told not to search somewhere, for some reason….

 

hobie1616

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The assertion that there were no classified documents in Trump’s office or elsewhere proved to be wrong when the FBI retrieved 101 classified documents months afterwards, including from the office, which was found to be where the most highly classified documents had been located.

Corcoran’s previously unreported account, as relayed to the Guardian by two people familiar with the matter, suggests he was materially misled as the special counsel Jack Smith examines whether his incomplete search was actually a ploy by Trump to retain classified documents.

It was not clear who waved off Corcoran from searching elsewhere at Mar-a-Lago – whether it was Trump himself or Trump employees who advised him to look for classified documents in the storage room, according to an account of his testimony to the grand jury.
 



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