FBI storms Mar a Lago

[veni vidi vici]

Russian Collusion II
Diversions and throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick!
Shameful Party of Sin

 

[billy backstay]

Pride of the GOP. It won't MIGHT prevent him from being the 2024 GOP nominee.

Fourteenth Amendment Citizenship, Equal Protection, and Other Rights of Citizens​

• Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office​

  No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
  
  
  

  Fourteenth Amendment Section 3 | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

  constitution.congress.gov
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[Sol Rosenberg]

We're gonna need a stage 10 DARVO distraction here, Bullshitters. Get to work on it!

 

[pusslicker]

We're gonna need a stage 10 DARVO distraction here, Bullshitters. Get to work on it!

Kind of interesting how quiet they are. I can't remember the last time they were this quiet.

 

[Nice!]

Come on man....He said Trump admitted to having nuclear documents in his safe... that's huge.
Bring it Nice.

 

[jhc]

This is the lawyer who signed the search inventories. The best people? Was the one who was kept "outside in the heat". She has no credibility.

Inner Circle Mocks Trump for Regularly Consulting with Conspiracy-Mongering OAN Reporter Christina Bobb

As former President Donald Trump prepres to restart his rallies, The New York Times reports that aides and others joke about Trump's frequent consultations with conspiracy-minded One America News reporter Christina Bobb. In an article entitled "At Once Diminished and Dominating, Trump Prepares...

www.mediaite.com

 

[Steam Flyer]

Found out I was wrong, some nuclear weapon secrets are apparently statutorily classified, meaning even a POTUS must seek congressional approval of some kind, presumably from the Senate at least. That's pretty much it though.

The document classification system is established by law, by Congress. The President (usually) can't just ignore or flout it.

 

[billy backstay]

This is the lawyer who signed the search inventories. The best people? Was the one who was kept "outside in the heat". She has no credibility.

Inner Circle Mocks Trump for Regularly Consulting with Conspiracy-Mongering OAN Reporter Christina Bobb

As former President Donald Trump prepres to restart his rallies, The New York Times reports that aides and others joke about Trump's frequent consultations with conspiracy-minded One America News reporter Christina Bobb. In an article entitled "At Once Diminished and Dominating, Trump Prepares...

www.mediaite.com

That linked story is 9 weeks old, this one is much better and way more current!!!

Trump Responds to Merrick Garland, Fumes That FBI Agents Left Melania’s Closet a ‘Mess’​

Trump Responds to Merrick Garland, Fumes That FBI Agents Left Melania’s Closet a ‘Mess’

Donald Trump responded to Merrick Garland’s statement about the raid of Mar-a-Lago and fumed that FBI agents left Melania Trump’s closet a “mess.”

www.mediaite.com

Donald Trump responded to Attorney General Merrick Garland’s statement about the raid of the former president’s Mar-a-Lago estate and fumed that FBI agents left former First Lady Melania Trump’s closet a “mess.”

Garland said on Thursday that he personally approved the warrant for the Monday raid, whose purpose is unknown and which Garland did not address. He announced that the Department of Justice has asked a court to unseal the warrant. Garland also condemned what he called “unfounded attacks” in the aftermath of the raid, which outraged Trump and his allies.

According to the New York Times, the search concerned classified documents that Trump took from the White House after he left office. According to Newsweek, the raid was not related to the Department of Justice’s probe of Trump’s conduct surrounding Jan. 6.

In a couple posts on his social network, Truth Social, Trump blasted Garland and the FBI.

“My attorneys and representatives were cooperating fully, and very good relationships had been established. The government could have had whatever they wanted, if we had it. They asked us to put an additional lock on a certain area – DONE! Everything was fine, better than that of most previous Presidents, and then, out of nowhere and with no warning, Mar-a-Lago was raided, at 6:30 in the morning, by VERY large numbers of agents, and even “safecrackers.” They got way ahead of themselves. Crazy!” he posted.

Source: Truth Social Screenshot
“….Just learned that agents went through the First Lady’s closets and rummaged through her clothing and personal items. Surprisingly, left area in a relative mess. Wow!” added Trump.

Source: Truth Social Screenshot
Trump’s counsel has until 3 p.m. ET Friday to accept the DOJ’s request for the warrant to be publicized.
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[badlatitude]

Newsweek reporting based on government sourcing that in those classified documents Trump stole included the payroll information of human intelligence, meaning the names and locations of our spies.

I also believe I heard a WaPo reporter state they confirmed nuclear documents were in these boxes.

 

[badlatitude]

Search warrant shows Trump under investigation for potential obstruction of justice, Espionage Act​

Source: Politico

Search warrant shows Trump under investigation for potential obstruction of justice, Espionage Act violations

A search warrant viewed by POLITICO reveals that the FBI is investigating Donald Trump for a potential violation of the Espionage Act and removed classified documents from the former president’s Florida estate earlier this week.

By BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN, KYLE CHENEY and NICHOLAS WU

08/12/2022 03:03 PM EDT

A search warrant viewed by POLITICO reveals that the FBI is investigating Donald Trump for a potential violation of the Espionage Act and removed classified documents from the former president’s Florida estate earlier this week.

A receipt accompanying the search warrant, viewed by POLITICO on Friday, shows that Trump possessed documents including a handwritten note; documents marked with “TS/SCI,” which indicate one of the highest levels of government classification; and another item labeled “Info re: President of France.”

The warrant shows federal law enforcement was investigating Trump for removal or destruction of records, obstruction of an investigation, and violating the Espionage Act. Conviction under the statutes can result in imprisonment or fines.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...-of-justice-espionage-act-violations-00051507

 

[Mark_K]

The document classification system is established by law, by Congress. The President (usually) can't just ignore or flout it.

Congress consists of hundreds of people, in order to grant them authority in the matter they would all have to be read in, so the vast majority of classified material is the exclusive domain of the Executive branch. The relevance to the subject at hand is pretty much only the area of criminal prosecution. Makes it rather problematic, unless it can be proven that Trump not only illegally declassified one of the few things covered by statutes but that he disseminated it, so it's highly likely the DOJ never deeply considered prosecution, they just moved to get the docs back.

 

[badlatitude]

 

[badlatitude]

Lock them all up!!!!

Jury selection will take place on Oct. 24.

Prosecutors said in a May 23 filing that the Weisselberg investigation was spurred by a Nov. 2, 2020 Bloomberg article about perks Weisselberg allegedly received.

"The article outlined many of the key facts relevant to the crimes charged," Manhattan prosecutor Solomon Shinerock wrote in May.

The Trump Organization was accused in July 2021 of providing executives with lavish untaxed perks, which prosecutors called "indirect employee compensation." Weisselberg, a 74-year-old who had been at Trump's side at the company for decades, was accused of receiving $1.7 million in perks — including an apartment and car.

Weisselberg and the company have entered not guilty pleas.

Merchan said that in September, he will hear arguments on a request by Weisselberg's team to suppress evidence from two Manhattan district attorney investigators who he said "struck up small talk" while Weisselberg was in custody. A statement attributed to Weisselberg from the conversation — in which he described the lengthy commute from his Long Island home — was included in court documents. Attorneys for Weisselberg, who is accused of moving into a New York City corporate apartment without paying taxes on the alleged perk, have argued he was essentially tricked into divulging information he might otherwise not have with a lawyer present.

In the motion to dismiss charges, they claimed the company and Weisselberg were "improperly targeted" due to politics. They highlighted statements made by New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat who has been critical of Trump, a Republican. Two attorneys from James' office are assigned to the Manhattan district attorney's investigation.

Trump sat for a court-ordered deposition on Wednesday in James' case, invoking the Fifth Amendment and then replying "same answer" hundreds of times during about four hours of questioning.

Trump's attorneys have said previously they were concerned that Trump's deposition could be turned over to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. Attorneys for James' office, and a judge overseeing her probe, have said that her investigators are allowed to do that.

Weisselberg's lawyers also wrote in January that the charges against Weisselberg should be tossed because he received immunity against certain federal charges when he testified to a federal grand jury investigating former Trump attorney Michael Cohen.

Shinerock replied that no one on his team "has ever seen or been briefed on the contents of Weisselberg's testimony" against Cohen, but claimed the federal immunity does not apply to the state charges filed against Weisselberg.

Bet Weisselberg spills his guts now.

 

[veni vidi vici]

We're gonna need a stage 10 DARVO distraction here, Bullshitters. Get to work on it!

Shameful

 

[badlatitude]

 

[Steam Flyer]

Congress consists of hundreds of people, in order to grant them authority in the matter they would all have to be read in, so the vast majority of classified material is the exclusive domain of the Executive branch. The relevance to the subject at hand is pretty much only the area of criminal prosecution. Makes it rather problematic, unless it can be proven that Trump not only illegally declassified one of the few things covered by statutes but that he disseminated it, so it's highly likely the DOJ never deeply considered prosecution, they just moved to get the docs back.

NO

Don't be so obtuse. Congress has passed a series of laws that establish the classifications of documents, and there are several agencies that do the classifying, and a coordinating office. Members of Congress do not read classified documents, unless they have a specifici reason and clearance to do so (committee work etc).

For the last fucking time, the President cannot declassify documents on a whim. It's bad enough that he can hand out clearances to relatives; and apparently get his mitts on stuff he should never see ("eyes only")

 

[Ishmael]

Congress consists of hundreds of people, in order to grant them authority in the matter they would all have to be read in, so the vast majority of classified material is the exclusive domain of the Executive branch. The relevance to the subject at hand is pretty much only the area of criminal prosecution. Makes it rather problematic, unless it can be proven that Trump not only illegally declassified one of the few things covered by statutes but that he disseminated it, so it's highly likely the DOJ never deeply considered prosecution, they just moved to get the docs back.

I think you are 100% wrong on this.

 

[Mark_K]

NO

Don't be so obtuse. Congress has passed a series of laws that establish the classifications of documents, and there are several agencies that do the classifying, and a coordinating office. Members of Congress do not read classified documents, unless they have a specifici reason and clearance to do so (committee work etc).

For the last fucking time, the President cannot declassify documents on a whim. It's bad enough that he can hand out clearances to relatives; and apparently get his mitts on stuff he should never see ("eyes only")

Yes they can for most things. And do.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...resident-have-ability-declassify-anything-an/

 

[Mike G]

And remember, they got video footage from MAL a month ago. So they may have an idea of who visited that room.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Yes they can for most things. And do.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...resident-have-ability-declassify-anything-an/

From your 2nd link:
"The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders."

This is incorrect. The classification of documents is governed by laws passed by Congress. The links I gove you earlier gave about a dozen specific examples starting in 1946 up thru the 70s. The President can issue executive concerning the handling of classified documents, just as the President carries out all the laws passed by Congress. But he cannot defy them (unless he's a Republican).