Finally, Trump is getting close to justice

Bus Driver

Bacon Quality Control Specialist
It might save taxpayer's money if he were gifted an unlimited supply.

Edit.. Plus a wafer thin mint every night for dessert.
Always odd to see a post that makes no sense, in the current stream.

Then, I note there are two previous posts that are hidden because the authors are clearly snowflakes who have me on their double-secret ignore list. The only two I am aware of who've done that are Tommy Gun and Soylent Blob.
 

badlatitude

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Model Prosecution Memo for Trump Classified Documents​


by Andrew Weissmann, Ryan Goodman, Joyce Vance, Norman L. Eisen, Fred Wertheimer, Siven Watt, E. Danya Perry, Joshua Stanton and Joshua Kolb


This model prosecution memorandum assesses potential charges federal prosecutors may bring against former President Donald Trump. It focuses on those emanating from his handling of classified documents and other government records since leaving office on January 20, 2021. It includes crimes related to the removal and retention of national security information and obstruction of the investigation into his handling of these documents. The authors have decades of experience as federal prosecutors and defense lawyers, as well as other legal expertise. Based upon this experience and the analysis that follows, we conclude that Trump should–and likely will–be charged.

Before indicting a case, prosecutors prepare a prosecution memo (or “pros memo”) that lays out admissible evidence, possible charges, and legal issues. This document provides a basis for prosecutors and their supervisors to assess whether the case meets the standard set forth in the Federal Principles of Prosecution, which permit prosecution only when there is sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction. Before a decision is made about bringing charges against Trump (and co-conspirators, if any), prosecutors will prepare such a memo.

There is sufficient evidence to obtain and sustain a conviction here, if the information gleaned from government filings and statements and voluminous public reporting is accurate. Indeed, the DOJ is likely now, or shortly will be, internally circulating a pros memo of its own saying so. That DOJ memo will, however, be highly confidential, in part because it will contain information derived through the grand jury and attorney work product. Since it will not be publicly available, we offer this analysis. Ours is likely more detailed than what DOJ will prepare internally for explanatory purposes. But, given the gravity of the issues here, our memo provides a sense of how prosecutors will assemble and evaluate the considerations that they must assess before making a prosecution decision.

Our memo analyzes six federal crimes in depth:

Mishandling of Government Documents
1. Retention of National Defense Information (18 U.S.C. § 793(e))
2. Concealing Government Records (18 U.S.C. § 2071)
3. Conversion of Government Property (18 U.S.C. § 641)

Obstruction, Contempt, False Information

1. Obstruction of Justice (18 U.S.C. § 1519)
2. Criminal Contempt (18 U.S.C. § 402)
3. False Statements to Federal Investigators (18 U.S.C. § 1001)

In the course of discussing these statutes, we also touch upon others that may have been violated but where the factual predicate for applicability is less clear. For instance, additional charges could be appropriate–under 18 U.S.C. §§ 798 and 793(e) (dissemination)–if the public reporting regarding Trump’s having intentionally disseminated classified material to aides and others is accurate. Additional charges could also potentially be brought under 18 U.S.C. § 1924 if there is sufficient evidence that Trump unlawfully removed classified documents from the White House (see our discussion of DOJ precedents for past prosecutions under § 1924 in Part IV and in the Appendix). Based on the publicly available information to date, a powerful case exists for charging Trump under several federal criminal statutes, which we discuss in detail.


Just Security has much more about the authors and other sources:

https://www.justsecurity.org/86771/model-prosecution-memo-for-trump-classified-documents/
 

00seven

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Always odd to see a post that makes no sense, in the current stream.

Then, I note there are two previous posts that are hidden because the authors are clearly snowflakes who have me on their double-secret ignore list. The only two I am aware of who've done that are Tommy Gun and Soylent Blob.
It's neither of the 2 you've so respectfully named. There's probably more that don't appreciate your content.
 
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dfw_sailor

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Always odd to see a post that makes no sense, in the current stream.

Then, I note there are two previous posts that are hidden because the authors are clearly snowflakes who have me on their double-secret ignore list. The only two I am aware of who've done that are Tommy Gun and Soylent Blob.
Xxxxxx said

'And will the SS let him eat Big Macs, if he behaves and doesn’t make too much noise, like rattling the cage bars all night'

To which I replied saying an unlimited supply might help save taxpayer's money.

The wafer thin mint was a nod to the over eating scene in the meaning of life.

I had put the name of the poster in, but removed it because I have a 102f fever, wife had a 103.8 a few nights ago, and I could still get that. Im in no condition to start a shit show right now.
 

Lark

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Investigations were allowed but prosecution is a very political decision. I don’t expect one to lead to the other. If it does, Justice will bow to the highest bid under the Supreme Court. Any guesses which way the conservative money will decide that goes? Trump or DeSantis? The Pension scandal shows DeSantis can distract with wokeness while still generating solid revenue. Maybe it will boil down to the lack of stupid spawn. Is the Trump klan a business opportunity or risk?
 

Chris in Santa Cruz CA

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Xxxxxx said

'And will the SS let him eat Big Macs, if he behaves and doesn’t make too much noise, like rattling the cage bars all night'

To which I replied saying an unlimited supply might help save taxpayer's money.

The wafer thin mint was a nod to the over eating scene in the meaning of life.

I had put the name of the poster in, but removed it because I have a 102f fever, wife had a 103.8 a few nights ago, and I could still get that. Im in no condition to start a shit show right now.
Bring me a bucket
 

Sisyphus

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When?

All I've seen is years of yap, yap, yap.

There has been more than enough evidence for years to prosecute him for multiple offenses.

Yet all there is is more yap, yap, yap.

I'm utterly convinced that the plan is to simply keep investigating and adding new stuff endlessly until he croaks, at which point all the investigations will simply be shut down.

No-one has the balls to criminally charge a former POTUS.
Do you understand why it is a good idea for the DOJ to delay charging TFG with one crime while it is still investigating him on other crimes? It has to do, at least in part, with the DOJ’s obligation, once it brings charges, to turn over evidence to the defense.
 

Bus Driver

Bacon Quality Control Specialist
Xxxxxx said

'And will the SS let him eat Big Macs, if he behaves and doesn’t make too much noise, like rattling the cage bars all night'

To which I replied saying an unlimited supply might help save taxpayer's money.

The wafer thin mint was a nod to the over eating scene in the meaning of life.

I had put the name of the poster in, but removed it because I have a 102f fever, wife had a 103.8 a few nights ago, and I could still get that. Im in no condition to start a shit show right now.
Thanks. But, I don't really care to read the crap posted by someone so delicate they use the double-secret ignore function. It's the equivalent of sticking fingers in the ears and chanting "Lalalalalala".
 

Blue Crab

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Thanks. But, I don't really care to read the crap posted by someone so delicate they use the double-secret ignore function. It's the equivalent of sticking fingers in the ears and chanting "Lalalalalala".
It is. The two that have me on double secret ignore that I've noticed are Tom and Gouv. I own Gouv for his past nuttiness and he can't stand it. I only miss Tom's non-political posts. The rest is SOS.
 

Fakenews

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Do you understand why it is a good idea for the DOJ to delay charging TFG with one crime while it is still investigating him on other crimes? It has to do, at least in part, with the DOJ’s obligation, once it brings charges, to turn over evidence to the defense.
Yeah but his crimes are without end. At some point you bring the charges to put him in prison of the rest of his unnatural life.
 

Fakenews

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Apparently the DOJ has a recording Corcoran made regarding the purloined top secret docs make during a extended trip in an automobile as notes to himself, the nature of which is very ungood for Trump


Day not weeks hopefully…

 



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