Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

pacice

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What would a AC foiling monohull look like?

I mean one that can foil downwind and maybe upwind, not just foil assisted reaching?

How can you match watch with foils poking up to 10 metres out the side of the boat.

How fast will they tack or gybe?

 

Rawhide

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If it is going to be other than some half assed partial foiling shitter, I would expect much like a very large moth, with cyclists powering gyroscopes for stability.

 

Tornado_ALIVE

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Tornado_ALIVE

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Anyone who thinks match racing in foiled monos will be easier / better than Multis are a fool.  If it has a canting keel, it will be a lot slower.  The foiling Multis turned bloody quickly.  If Monos are developing high boat speeds, they will also weigh up the cost of doing manoeuvres around the course and minimise manoeuvres to what is only really necessary.  The only way to bring back match racing that will please the purists is to slow the boats down..... So you really want to see that. Some may!

 
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Groucho Marx

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Will only be fast if it one step up from a foiling Moth - which means no stupid lead ballast - but a large crew - so how big, maybe 30 foot would be the maximum? Not going to happen is it?. If it is going to be a gutted Open 60 clone, then how boring is that? Totally fucked thinking?

 

jaysper

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Anyone who thinks match racing in foiled monos will be easier / better than Multis are a fool.  If it has a canting keel, it will be a lot slower.  The foiling Multis turned bloody quickly.  If Monos are developing high boat speeds, they will also weigh up the cost of doing manoeuvres around the course and minimise manoeuvres to what is only really necessary.  The only way to bring back match racing that will please the purists is to slow the boats down..... So you really want to see that. Some may!
I for one do.

You are right. If the relative cost for performing a manouvre is punitive then it will discourage match racing. 

Therefore if the only way to achieve this is a return to something akin to the old IACC class then so be it as far as I'm concerned. 

 

Tony-F18

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Unless it will be a large moth-ish mono I don't see how that would work, anything that won't be able to do foiling tacks and/or gybes will be a failure IMHO.

Foiling assisted mono's would also be dangerous with that protruding foil.

Reading this quote I get the impression that LR never really considered multihulls to be "proper" sail boats:

"Emirates Team New Zealand have been consulting with a number of potential challengers and there is an overall desire to have a spectacular monohull yacht that will be exciting to match race, but also one that the public and sailors can relate to as a sail boat that really challenges a full crew of professional yachtsman around the race track."

 


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