Foiling Monohull - what would it look like?

[hughw]

they bought it before the end of last year....

 

[Xlot]

28', right

 

[MultiMono]

Are you really saying that Team UK have converted a quant 28 into what we see about? Just curious...

 

[Mozzy Sails]

Juging by the shape of the transom, and chine and the fact that it can't be more than 30ft unless the guy stood on it is 7ft plus... then I it could be a quant 28

 

[nav]

I note that they have used the foil wing arrangement (Mercedes 'star') they showed in their earlier renderings of their 75 - must think it's good, not just for style after all.

 

[hughw]

Are you really saying that Team UK have converted a quant 28 into what we see about? Just curious...

Yes - it really IS/Was the Q28, well suited as it has the right proportions and displacement.  Now has a foredeck, rig swiped off a production multihull, plus the assorted AC bits....there was only ever one Q28, and this is it. We did multiples of the Q30 and those are still all racing the lakes.

 

[Stingray~]

Yes - it really IS/Was the Q28, well suited as it has the right proportions and displacement.  Now has a foredeck, rig swiped off a production multihull, plus the assorted AC bits....there was only ever one Q28, and this is it. We did multiples of the Q30 and those are still all racing the lakes.

Amazing, this forum sometimes. Thank you!

 

[Stingray~]

I note that they have used the foil wing arrangement (Mercedes 'star') they showed in their earlier renderings of their 75 - must think it's good, not just for style after all.

The angle between the wings?

 

[rh3000]

Somebody took these pictures and posted to facebook this morning. Anyone want to venture what hull they took to frankenengineer? 11 meter?

I know it'll still look like the Jesus Lizard when foiling on one side, but in this image here it reminds me of a humpback whale - feels properly aquatic

 

[Kenny Dumas]

Can't wait to see it flying!

 

[nav]

I note that they have used the foil wing arrangement (Mercedes 'star') they showed in their earlier renderings of their 75 - must think it's good, not just for style after all.

The angle between the wings?

 

[Raptorsailor]

Rather crude foil design imo..... they used up all the R&D wonga on that building. ETNZ use tents and containers. Guess what they have: a cup. In all seriousness though, I don't think it was an RC44 and it's gonna be cool to see that thing sailing around the solent during the summer. It'd be nice to have better quality photos of those foils, never judge a book by its cover y'know.  Right now, they look crude enough to accurately reflect INEUK's performance in the last cup...

 

[nav]

Too 'agricultural'?

Love those rams......

Still as 'proof of concept' - why not.

 

[Sea Breeze 74]

Then you have to find the sweet spot where the foils enter the water. The splash around the rudder is really suspicious on the current render as most of the fast foiling boats will have a water spray behind the foil, not in front as pictured. Same for the are where the lifted foil meet the hull, difficult to imagine that it can rotate.

But the more you got into the details, the more time you will spend, for what? Their goal is to design and build a boat to sell. Their photoshop works was enough to catch the attention and get some nice publicity, I don't think the goal was to fool people. Would it looks better with a more realistic picture? Definitely! Would they gain something extra from this? Probably not and possibly the opposite considering the added effort required.

I actually thought the original intent was to fool people that it was real. Now I understand it is purely to illustrate the concept so they probably achieved their goal okay.

 

[Stingray~]

Too 'agricultural'?

Love those rams......

Still as 'proof of concept' - why not.

There will be a foil wings shape steady development progression, probably like last time from ‘safest’ to fastest. 

 

[nroose]

I found the image on Facebook and extracted the url and the photo was all that would show.  The beginning of the url does not do anything https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net but it does seem to be a fake site ..

fbcdn stands for Facebook Content Delivery Network. This is where facebook hosts images you upload.

 

[Terry Hollis]

fbcdn stands for Facebook Content Delivery Network. This is where facebook hosts images you upload.

Thanks for that .. I was looking at the facl2 bit ..

 

[Justaquickone]

Well "oily beef hooked " I'm glad to see there's something finally happening on the surrogate front ,but it's certainly not an endearing image sitting there looking all soft and floppy while on the hard . I can only imagine  what sort of hydraulic juggling  is going to take place going from effectively a hand brake hill start to winding up to full noise . Anyone think that maybe the form stability of a scow might be a better alternative for a first go at the new concept ?

 

[dogwatch]

Rather crude foil design imo..... they used up all the R&D wonga on that building. ETNZ use tents and containers. Guess what they have: a cup. 

It's mostly a housing area, not industrial. Not certain how keen the local residents or the council would have been on permanent tents and containers.

 

[nav]

There will be a foil wings shape steady development progression, probably like last time from ‘safest’ to fastest. 

Obviously.....but it's not as if the starting point for each group will necessarily be the same.

If you looked you would see that three quite different initial ideas, crude as they may be, have been shown in early drawings and videos from ETNZ/LR, Magic and Ineos.

Ineos is the first to put their money where their mouth is - and have stuck with their early idea as posted above.....