Fuck the cops, defund the whole military!!

Olsonist

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It was passed with bipartisan veto proof majorities in both houses but then Republicans who voted for the defense bill will actually have to vote to override Shitstain's veto which means that Moscow Mitch + Senate Republican elk will have to vote to override Shitstain's veto which means ...

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Pertinacious Tom

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roundthebuoys said:
Trump will defund the military if some internet statute isn't abolished.
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That would be the "internet statute" that says The Ed isn't responsible for what we post in PA, which is why we have so much freedom to post in PA.

Sneaking Section 230 Reform Into the Defense Bill Is a Terrible Idea
 

Republicans aim to sneak anti-Section 230 regulation into defense spending bill. The chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee may insert this measure into a new defense bill, as part of a compromise with President Donald Trump. If Democrats go with it, Trump will reportedly overlook the bill's move to rename military bases honoring Confederate leaders.

Section 230 of federal communications law—the "internet's First Amendment"—is a federal law that helps ensure free speech online while also protecting the right of private entities to moderate content as they see fit.

It's become a bipartisan target since it makes it harder for elected officials and other government authorities to shut down speech they don't like or threaten private businesses if they refuse to give in to political whims when it comes to deciding what content to allow or promote. (It also has a lot of foes in failing industries who want a government-mandated leg up on their competitors.) Legislation to limit or abolish Section 230 has become popular in Congress, where lawmakers from both parties have introduced such measures. But with the exception of the 2018 sex-ad law FOSTA, most of these have gone nowhere.

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Sol Rosenberg

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Olsonist said:
It was passed with bipartisan veto proof majorities in both houses but then Republicans who voted for the defense bill will actually have to vote to override Shitstain's veto which means that Moscow Mitch + Senate Republican elk will have to vote to override Shitstain's veto which means ...

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There's only one thing that scares the Senate GOP more than mean tweets from the Pride of the GOP. The defense lobby. 

 
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Not for nothing

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lets keep the Saudi's and Exxon profitable., with Tax payers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s

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  • The United States spends about $81 billion a year to protect oil supplies around the world, according to an estimate by Securing America’s Future Energy.
  • SAFE released its study the same day President Donald Trump claimed Middle Eastern countries are hiking oil prices while benefiting from U.S. protection.
  • Retired military commanders associated with SAFE say the focus on defending oil supplies is diverting budget dollars from other priorities.
  • full article :US spends $81 billion a year to protect oil supplies, report estimates (cnbc.com)
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mikewof

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No actually let's completely replace war spending with health care, social services and "reform" education! 
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Obviously we'll never significantly defund the military.

But given that we've left the Cold War and entered this new era of the Economic War, it's ridiculous that we continue to spend so much money on bombs, attack planes and littoral ships when we're currently being attacked in our industrial infrastructure and we have no means to respond, since nobody told the Pentagon yet that it's no longer 1957.

We can't defund our military.

But we can task our military with the real problems of the contemporary Economic War ... Instead of paying them mainly to train and attack brown people in deserts, we need to task them to actual tasks for which they are paid in our tax dollars that formerly went into training and attacking brown people in deserts.

Rebuilding broken bridges, broken highways, replacing broken ports, building cybersecurity, building titanium processing, building rare earth element infrastructure, etc..

They can't keep spending our tax dollars fighting a war that no longer exists, because it's weakening our economy, and we're effectively subsidizing the defense industry sales outside of the USA, privatizing public funds. We need to spend our tax dollars strengthening our economy by upgrading industrial and communications infrastructures using the defense budget as that tool.

Anyone here who thinks that we can lock the defense into a reduced input fixed to our GDP or GNP is so out of touch with the realities of our U.S. military-industry economy that they cannot make an effective contribution to this discussion.

 
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AJ Oliver

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Come on people, get with the program . . 

I have already shown previously that the figure below ($ 648.8 billion) is totally phony. 

It excludes NSA, CIA, nuke R & D, and even the cost of wars !! 

As the joke in the Pentagon goes, "That $649 billion is just to have a military; if you want to actually use it, it will cost you more." 

The true figure for the US is around double the propagandistic number.  

(I am less sure about other countries' actual spending - some of them may be understated as well.) 

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