Champlain Sailor
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Didn't take long for this class to go to the dogs....
Fulcrum Speedworks Rocket
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PurpleOnion
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Dave Clark
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I guarantee that's a pun. Actually made my morning combined with the world class boat+dog pic.
So much room for activities!
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craigiri
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Sorta gives "christening" a boat a new slant....slightly more sinful. It's somewhat a rite of passage with new products - I remember one of the hottest lines in our field....the wifey and I joked that when we obtained the dealership we were gonna "christen" one of the models on the showroom floor.
But back to the Dogs - one of my memories is watching a experienced sailor (a coach, teacher) with his choice of boats take a couple hours on a Board Boat with him and his dog. I don't know why it stuck with me - maybe because he was in business with the boats and teaching and here he was actually enjoying the endeavor.
Which definitely indicates the new Rocket ads which will be following us all over the internet once production is built up past demand (like those dang UFO ads that already follow me everywhere).
Dogs sell boats - and they never come back to you asking for fees for their modeling services.
But back to the Dogs - one of my memories is watching a experienced sailor (a coach, teacher) with his choice of boats take a couple hours on a Board Boat with him and his dog. I don't know why it stuck with me - maybe because he was in business with the boats and teaching and here he was actually enjoying the endeavor.
Which definitely indicates the new Rocket ads which will be following us all over the internet once production is built up past demand (like those dang UFO ads that already follow me everywhere).
Dogs sell boats - and they never come back to you asking for fees for their modeling services.
robalex117
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I like this picture best. Wife looking one way dog the other. Also perfect sail choice for the July 4th weekend.
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robalex117
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Don't have much experiance with sunfish but the rudder is a little bigger than a laser and the daggerboard is a lot smaller. Slighly smaller in length but about 1/2 the chord length.
craigiri
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Is the finish on the hull seating surface (where dog paws are, etc.) matt or finished differently than the rest of the hull?
robalex117
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srossfbt
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Dave,
I've got two questions for you; any idea on the time frame for the backcountry model and how about a west coast dealer? Thanks!
I've got two questions for you; any idea on the time frame for the backcountry model and how about a west coast dealer? Thanks!
Hot and Soggy
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Question: Would the Rocket be suitable for 2.5 people? 410 lbs of crew weight?
The Details:
I'm in the market for a boat or three. I've been looking at the Rocket, The RS Zest, and the new Laser Cascais (and an Aero7 perhaps). I have a Dolphin Sr which is more or less an aged, heavy and uncomfortable cousin to the Rocket or Sunfish. You can physically have two adult males on the boat, but it's not ideal. The Dolphin Sr was gifted to me from a friend who hadn't been using it. It's in decent condition (new sail, pulleys, cam cleat, lines, but needs a few things still - paint finish repair, tiller bolt, trailer re-wiring), but I'm not excited about it. I'm looking for a little more room in the cockpit for family (but not all of them at the same time). I'd ideally like to be able to take my father (185 lbs) and one son (50 lbs) along with me (175 lbs). Performance doesn't have to be stellar in this condition, but still lively enough not to bore my son (7 yo). My father (or wife) is ballast, not crew, so advise accordingly.
Even though my 7 yo will graduate out to his own boat soon enough, his younger brother would probably take his place, while Mom might join one of the boats or watch from the beach. Taking it one boat at a time, I'm tempted to sell the Dolphin Sr in favor of one of the more modern boats listed above and add a second (besides an Optimist) a year or two after that. I'd like to ultimately end up in an Aero or something on my own and have one or two other dinghies for family fun, including one multi-string/sail trainer type (akin to the Cascais or Zest, or suggest other here). It feels like the Rocket might be a good fit here, but it may depend on suitability for carrying two adult males and a child (410 to 430 lbs of crew and gear).
The Details:
I'm in the market for a boat or three. I've been looking at the Rocket, The RS Zest, and the new Laser Cascais (and an Aero7 perhaps). I have a Dolphin Sr which is more or less an aged, heavy and uncomfortable cousin to the Rocket or Sunfish. You can physically have two adult males on the boat, but it's not ideal. The Dolphin Sr was gifted to me from a friend who hadn't been using it. It's in decent condition (new sail, pulleys, cam cleat, lines, but needs a few things still - paint finish repair, tiller bolt, trailer re-wiring), but I'm not excited about it. I'm looking for a little more room in the cockpit for family (but not all of them at the same time). I'd ideally like to be able to take my father (185 lbs) and one son (50 lbs) along with me (175 lbs). Performance doesn't have to be stellar in this condition, but still lively enough not to bore my son (7 yo). My father (or wife) is ballast, not crew, so advise accordingly.
Even though my 7 yo will graduate out to his own boat soon enough, his younger brother would probably take his place, while Mom might join one of the boats or watch from the beach. Taking it one boat at a time, I'm tempted to sell the Dolphin Sr in favor of one of the more modern boats listed above and add a second (besides an Optimist) a year or two after that. I'd like to ultimately end up in an Aero or something on my own and have one or two other dinghies for family fun, including one multi-string/sail trainer type (akin to the Cascais or Zest, or suggest other here). It feels like the Rocket might be a good fit here, but it may depend on suitability for carrying two adult males and a child (410 to 430 lbs of crew and gear).
Alan Crawford
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fastyacht
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Convert wife into crew and with two rockets, fun filled family grudge matches followed by chicken fights in the shallows and delicious grill after.
Also fun for sinfish seek and destroy missions hah
Whatever Phantom carried, add 50#.
I sailed a phantom 2handed and had a blast vack in hs. I was 185 and friend 160. 6 pack and gallon of water did not slow us down.
Also fun for sinfish seek and destroy missions hah
Whatever Phantom carried, add 50#.
I sailed a phantom 2handed and had a blast vack in hs. I was 185 and friend 160. 6 pack and gallon of water did not slow us down.
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Hot and Soggy
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Maybe, but I'd still like to add something with a headsail and kite at some point
Hot and Soggy
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That sounds like it'd be about right, in terms of weight.
Wife thinks her idea of a good time is sitting as a passenger in a power boat, so there's some work to be done.
Hot and Soggy
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Rocket looks like a great boat, but wouldn't be my first choice for three people.
craigiri
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Either is zest or Aero, tho - even less so. Zest is 1 or 1.5 people, Aero 1.
The other one mentioned - Cascais - isn't that sorta vaporware currently? That is, not really available to buy easily on this side of the pond?
If I wanted all the sails and all the people I'd consider Quest but you have to deal with more weight of boat. I was able to launch one on a dolly by myself (barely), but two people would have no problems.
My Rocket fantasies are me 80% of the time, me w/one or two grandkids sometimes - and me w/one other adult for one hour pleasure cruises (maybe 350 lbs total).
The Rocket cockpit and weight (boat hull) combo doesn't really exist elsewhere - less so for $4500 or so.
Hot and Soggy
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I talked to the LPE distributor closest to me and from what I could tell, Cascais would be as early as late November to whenever, and I've seen below average reports about LPE's customer service, communication, or timeliness. Cascais seems like a slightly lighter and less expensive than RS Feva. Crew capacity comparison, unknown. The Fusion is mentioned across the pond as another in this space, but possibly also too small for 2.5, and I don't think there's distribution in NA.
Quest is definitely heavier than I want (309 lb hull). Vago maybe? Heavier than Cascais, Zest, Feva, but smaller and lighter than Quest. Feels like I'm headed towards 2 boats - a rocket (for simplicity - maybe can train up my dad or wife), and one of the others for a stepping stone toward the extra complexity.
The Aero talk is just as another go-fast boat, not filling the family role. Spendy but alluring.
