Getting a second boat for Scotland
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There's a Van de Stadt 26 on Boats and Parts Scotland recently been listed. I tried to link but it looks like the privacy settings prevent it. It's £6k with no trailer but has had money spent recently and claims standing headroom and space for a family of four... (I think they'd have to be pretty close). Sailboatdata says SA/D is 20, which seems usefully high for a boat of this type but it, or I, are likely wrong.
Any update on your promising alternative?
Any update on your promising alternative?
Kris Cringle
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I'm setting your itinerary, Alan. This looks like a good stop:
Off Isle of Canna (not far from Skye), good anchorage, holding and moorings off Cafe' Canna. Seafood looks like their specialty.
Off Isle of Canna (not far from Skye), good anchorage, holding and moorings off Cafe' Canna. Seafood looks like their specialty.
AnIdiot
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Canna:
Just went on the Cafe Canna website. They have a really nice dinner menu.
Café Canna | A little restaurant on the Hebridean Isle of Canna
Café Canna is a little restaurant on the shores of Isle of Canna Bay serving fresh, wholesome local produce, fresh seafood, light snacks and refreshments.
www.cafecanna.co.uk
Kris Cringle
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They do:
Bull City
A fine fellow
Dammit! No more posting of delicious looking seafood photos!!! 
Black Sox
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It looks as though they have the seafood trained to walk out of the sea, across the road and onto the plate.
The tail meat of that lobster looks nothing like the meat of a Maine lobster.
Whinging Pom
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Maine Sunday lunch.
Alan H
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The boat in question is an Albin Vega. I've been offered free use of it when I go over there, next. Whether that includes traipsing to the Western Isles is under discussion. I thinkn what he had in mind was local cruising on the Clyde. Twist my arm, right? FORCE me to go cruising down to Bute, up Loch Long and Loch Goil, maybe poke around over into Loch Fyne. Horrors, what a fate.
This could go a couple of ways..
A.) The next time I go to Scotland, probably solo (since the Mrs. will not want to cruise like this) I take my friend up on his offer and off I go to Loch Etive, Oban, Mull and so on. However, I can't really live on the boat while I'm there, it IS his boat after all, and while an Albin Vega would be a great boat for a trip like this, it's not quite what I had in mind for a "second home" in Scotland. If I were to do this, I would make a "donation to the boat", like maybe a cruising chute, or a new jib and an upgraded autopilot, maybe a solar panel and controller. It would depend on what my friend thinks would be the most useful.
B.) The Mrs and I are discussing me offering to buy a 30% partnership in the boat. This would give me access to a nice little cruising boat for not a whole lot of money. He's over there do do 90% of the "work", and I send checks now and then, which won't be too big. My checks ease the financial burden of having the boat, he and his wife retain use of the boat for the entire season, minus maybe three weeks. I'd have to get over there every summer or every other summer to make it worthwhile. Given my age, I can see me doing this for about 6-8 years, though honestly, I am so utterly disgusted with the politics, gun crime, and complete lack of justice in the USA that just saying fuck it, and moving to Scotland seems pretty attractive. Not that the UK doesn't have it's own problems, it sure does, but at least they don't murder each other at the rate of 20+ every week.
This could go a couple of ways..
A.) The next time I go to Scotland, probably solo (since the Mrs. will not want to cruise like this) I take my friend up on his offer and off I go to Loch Etive, Oban, Mull and so on. However, I can't really live on the boat while I'm there, it IS his boat after all, and while an Albin Vega would be a great boat for a trip like this, it's not quite what I had in mind for a "second home" in Scotland. If I were to do this, I would make a "donation to the boat", like maybe a cruising chute, or a new jib and an upgraded autopilot, maybe a solar panel and controller. It would depend on what my friend thinks would be the most useful.
B.) The Mrs and I are discussing me offering to buy a 30% partnership in the boat. This would give me access to a nice little cruising boat for not a whole lot of money. He's over there do do 90% of the "work", and I send checks now and then, which won't be too big. My checks ease the financial burden of having the boat, he and his wife retain use of the boat for the entire season, minus maybe three weeks. I'd have to get over there every summer or every other summer to make it worthwhile. Given my age, I can see me doing this for about 6-8 years, though honestly, I am so utterly disgusted with the politics, gun crime, and complete lack of justice in the USA that just saying fuck it, and moving to Scotland seems pretty attractive. Not that the UK doesn't have it's own problems, it sure does, but at least they don't murder each other at the rate of 20+ every week.
Jim in Halifax
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Can't you negotiate a better deal? Like, he pays you a couple of hundred quid to sail his boat around?
Alan H
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LOL.... Yeah, the only real discussion here is whether I offer to buy a 30% share in the boat.
Oh, and whether I go back this next summer, which I would sure like to do. I'll be retired, and school will be out, so I'll have the time. It's just a negotiation at home. At any rate, this insanely generous offer has basically taken me out of the market of looking for my own boat.
Oh, and whether I go back this next summer, which I would sure like to do. I'll be retired, and school will be out, so I'll have the time. It's just a negotiation at home. At any rate, this insanely generous offer has basically taken me out of the market of looking for my own boat.
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TwoLegged
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Ever since they were new in the 70s, there have been a lot of Vegas in Scottish waters. For good reason: simple, well built, not too slow, and a lot more seaworthy than their lightish weight would imply.
Getting some sort of partnership (formal or otherwise) in the Vega sounds like the perfect solution for both parties. Happy sailing!
Getting some sort of partnership (formal or otherwise) in the Vega sounds like the perfect solution for both parties. Happy sailing!
Alan,
Here's a Contessa 26 that is at least sitting on a trailer. 3900 pounds. Doesn't say if the trailer is included.
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Here's a Contessa 26 that is at least sitting on a trailer. 3900 pounds. Doesn't say if the trailer is included.
1977 Contessa 26 26 Sloop for sale. View price, photos and Buy 1977 Contessa 26 26 Sloop #179832
View photos, specification & technical information of 1977 Contessa 26 26 Sloop or search for more boats on DailyBoats.com. Offer #179832
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Kris Cringle
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This has probably been mentioned somewhere; this is a nicely done Youtube channel if you're interested in sailing around Western Scotland and the Hebrides.
An organic farming family of 3 (and the daughter's boyfriend), with a little charter boat experience, buys their first sailboat, a 39' steel cutter, and is sailing the outer Hebrides, right now.
The daughter does nice video work. They seem well prepared and cautious for fairly inexperienced sailors.
They - for sure - love sailing and include a lot of footage. There are little to no mug shots of navel gazing into the camera, just sailing, terrific nature, and wildlife footage with an emphasis on the seabird population.
One of the amazing things for me is to see the actual climate onboard on the coast of Scotland, in August. Rarely do you see them without a knit hat and extra layers of gear. And they are often being eaten by midges!
An organic farming family of 3 (and the daughter's boyfriend), with a little charter boat experience, buys their first sailboat, a 39' steel cutter, and is sailing the outer Hebrides, right now.
The daughter does nice video work. They seem well prepared and cautious for fairly inexperienced sailors.
They - for sure - love sailing and include a lot of footage. There are little to no mug shots of navel gazing into the camera, just sailing, terrific nature, and wildlife footage with an emphasis on the seabird population.
One of the amazing things for me is to see the actual climate onboard on the coast of Scotland, in August. Rarely do you see them without a knit hat and extra layers of gear. And they are often being eaten by midges!
mathystuff
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You bought into anything yet? My boat's going to be on the market.
Veeger
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This little detail gives me concerns about cruising Scotland more than weather or anything else. The Admiral would become an infected mess (and very very unhappy) in a short time as she's particularly vulnerable to such pests.
Is there a season or predictable pattern about where and when you might be afflicted or a way/time to avoid them?
AnIdiot
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Yes:
- They don't really get going until June, so May is often a good bet. July+August are usually the worst. It's weather dependent.
- They can't fly faster than 2mph, so any breeze supresses them
- They don't travel far over water, so anchorages are usually not too vulnerable
- Repellent is pretty effective
One thing that might help mitigate is that midges don't actually "bite" or "puncture" the skin in the way that mosquitos or blackflies do- they scrape off a thin layer of skin, so that blood wells to the surface and can be sucked off: so you don't get anticoagulant laced with bacteria squirted under your skin... that may reduce the infection rate.
The "clegs" (or horseflies) are a different story, they are less numerous but much bigger and deliver a nasty bite- covering up and using repellent is needed for them...
