Getting tough with the anti-vaxxers

tp#12

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Facts are the ultimate persuaders.

If only this were true. The thing with these conspiracy whackos is that any source of facts is compromised, in their eyes. Or the data has been manipulated by big xxxx. The only source of truth they'll accept are the ones that confirm their thoughts, no matter what. Trying to convince them otherwise just ends up with you being labelled a sheep or part of big xxxx or incapable of 'doing your own research'
 

Steam Flyer

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If only this were true. The thing with these conspiracy whackos is that any source of facts is compromised, in their eyes. Or the data has been manipulated by big xxxx. The only source of truth they'll accept are the ones that confirm their thoughts, no matter what. Trying to convince them otherwise just ends up with you being labelled a sheep or part of big xxxx or incapable of 'doing your own research'

As far as changing their opinions/beliefs, yes I agree.
But the universe moves on, according to it's own ways. We are just beginning to scratch the surface of how it works, and opinions/beliefs don't change it by the slightest iota. Praying for rain is nice until you starve from crop failure. Scoffing about vaccines is fine until your family starts dropping. Insisting that other humans are inferior and deserve to be exterminated or enslaved leads to sorrow and collapse.

Grasshoppers probably think the lawnmower is harmless, but it still runs over them.

That's what I mean "facts are the ultimate persuaders" because when people go against the facts hard enough, long enough, those people get mowed down as the Universe grinds its way along by whatever principles keep it going.
 
The big corporations were the ones who enriched themselves selling "vaccines"/masks/test kits ect,
Be specific. Name names. You described something called big pharma which was systematically corrupt. Tell us about it.

Thermo Fisher, Abbot Labs and Roche are the largest suppliers of test kits. How did they enrich themselves? Whats did they do that was corrupt? What was the systemic cause of the corruption?

Fagron is one of the largest distributors of masks. Cardinal Health, Honeywell and 3 M are the largest manufacturers. How did they enrich themselves? Whats did they do that was corrupt? What was the systemic cause of the corruption?

What were the names of the two companies that developed the mRNA vaccine? Do you consider them "big" corporations?

We all heard the talking points in the beginning that if you took the jab you couldn't get covid. Then it morphed into several shots that didn't prevent getting covid, but it supposedly made you less sick if you took it.
That is generally how vaccines work. They increase your immune systems ability to respond to the disease ...they cannot stop the virus getting there in the first place.
I recommend reading this book by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.


Thanks. I can hardly curb my enthusiasm. His wife didnt like it though.
 

Chief Stipe

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If only this were true. The thing with these conspiracy whackos is that any source of facts is compromised, in their eyes. Or the data has been manipulated by big xxxx. The only source of truth they'll accept are the ones that confirm their thoughts, no matter what. Trying to convince them otherwise just ends up with you being labelled a sheep or part of big xxxx or incapable of 'doing your own research'
But that is exactly what your ilk do. The facts is Pzifer has a long history of manipulating data.
 

FlyingCircus2

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Are you Space Pony's sock or is Space Pony your sock?

So, when you say Big Pharma, you mean Pfizer? Why don't you just say Pfizer?
You were implying that all large pharmaceutical companies were corrupt and that there was systematic cause to that corruption.
Yes, all pharmaceutical companies are corrupt.

There is a famous revolving door between the companies and the regulators. Pharma also spends the most on tv advertisement and a shitload on campaign donations.

This was accepted as truth by both sides of the aisle in 2019. It was really jarring to see all the libtards and Bernie bros do an about face and suddenly trust Pfizer and moderna.

The FDA approval process is long and arduous for a reason. Every thing you put in your body has side effects. Even ibuprofen kills people.

Think about how many people care about your well being enough to, say, come to your house and help you throw away a couch. Probably a dozen? Maybe 2 dozen if you are more likeable in real life? Anyone on that list am executive at Pfizer or the fda?
 

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NeedAClew

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So don't get it. Tell everybody not to get it. The ones who are sheeple might do what you say and not get it. Whoopee shit. No cosmic loss.
Like what is the point of this now?
 

FlyingCircus2

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So don't get it. Tell everybody not to get it. The ones who are sheeple might do what you say and not get it. Whoopee shit. No cosmic loss.
Like what is the point of this now?
The corpo-fascists made life living hell for anybody who exercised bodily autonomy. "So don't get it" wasn't exactly the message.

Now that the truth is out that the vaccines were an order of magnitude more dangerous than the virus, "you always had the choice to say no". It's fucking exhausting.

 

Raz'r

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Yes, all pharmaceutical companies are corrupt.

There is a famous revolving door between the companies and the regulators. Pharma also spends the most on tv advertisement and a shitload on campaign donations.

This was accepted as truth by both sides of the aisle in 2019. It was really jarring to see all the libtards and Bernie bros do an about face and suddenly trust Pfizer and moderna.

The FDA approval process is long and arduous for a reason. Every thing you put in your body has side effects. Even ibuprofen kills people.

Think about how many people care about your well being enough to, say, come to your house and help you throw away a couch. Probably a dozen? Maybe 2 dozen if you are more likeable in real life? Anyone on that list am executive at Pfizer or the fda?
mRNA has been under review for 20 years. Only the specific protein was to review. It’s been reviewed pretty well now.
 

FlyingCircus2

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mRNA has been under review for 20 years. Only the specific protein was to review. It’s been reviewed pretty well now.
Yea. mRNA vaccines have a lot of potential.

They were held back because they killed a lot of the animals in trials. Kicking off mRNA vaccines in humans with a billion-sucker experiment was a rather questionable move.

Thankfully, the worst case scenarios where everyone drops dead from the virus after it mutates doesn't seem like it will come to pass.
 
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