Getting tough with the anti-vaxxers

[Marty Gingras]

Just the scientific method and evidence

The old man needs to make a YouTube living, so he is being (as usual) dramatic. Here's the paper he's talking about:

Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults

In 2020, prior to COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the Brighton Collaboration created a priority list, endorsed by the World Health Organization, of potential adverse events relevant to COVID-19 vaccines. We adapted the Brighton Collaboration list to evaluate ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The authors say their findings (vaccine risk somewhat outweighs vaccine benefit) may be wrong but they need more of the information held by the FDA and vaccine companies to know for sure. Clearly, they should be given access to the data.

Good to see (as has always been the case) the scientific method being applied and unfolding.

 

[Steam Flyer]

The old man needs to make a YouTube living, so he is being (as usual) dramatic. Here's the paper he's talking about:

Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults

In 2020, prior to COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the Brighton Collaboration created a priority list, endorsed by the World Health Organization, of potential adverse events relevant to COVID-19 vaccines. We adapted the Brighton Collaboration list to evaluate ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The authors say their findings (vaccine risk somewhat outweighs vaccine benefit) may be wrong but they need more of the information held by the FDA and vaccine companies to know for sure. Clearly, they should be given access to the data.

Good to see (as has always been the case) the scientific method being applied and unfolding.

I think it would be a good idea to make that data more widely available, but the same experiment is playing out in public, in full view. Look at the public health situation in countries with a ~90% vax rate (some are higher), and compare to the situation in the USA with ~60%

 

[Marty Gingras]

I think it would be a good idea to make that data more widely available, but the same experiment is playing out in public, in full view. Look at the public health situation in countries with a ~90% vax rate (some are higher), and compare to the situation in the USA with ~60%

For sure.

The authors lightly touched on the fact that they were looking at small clinical trials even though billions of doses have been administered. They said (basically) the trials were randomized and that's the gold standard, so it makes sense to look at them closely. That's true of course, but folks are also looking at the (more important, IMHO) big picture.

 

[Steam Flyer]

I think it would be a good idea to make that data more widely available, but the same experiment is playing out in public, in full view. Look at the public health situation in countries with a ~90% vax rate (some are higher), and compare to the situation in the USA with ~60%

For sure.

The authors lightly touched on the fact that they were looking at small clinical trials even though billions of doses have been administered. They said (basically) the trials were randomized and that's the gold standard, so it makes sense to look at them closely. That's true of course, but folks are also looking at the (more important, IMHO) big picture.

I did not bother with anti-vax fuckhead's video, no patience for that bullshit these days. Fuck 'em, they can all move to red states and die of the next plague (although this one is not done with us yet).

It is certainly worth gathering specific data on individuals with specific conditions... diabetes, for example... but just fishing for "proof" that the vaccines is BAD!! is just catering to more RWNJ bullshit. Isn't just making it up good enough?

 

[veni vidi vici]

None of the “vaccines “
Prevent transmission or contracting the Coronavirus
99.8% survival rate for those that come down with the Coronavirus
Of those that died or with severe illness were over the life expectancy age and or had comorbidity

 

[Marty Gingras]

None of the vaccines

FTFY

Prevent transmission or contracting the Coronavirus

It's semantics, but one gets infected with a virus (could be impactful or not) but contracts COVID-19.

99.8% survival rate for those that come down with the Coronavirus

Do you mean SARS-CoV-2? If so, I doubt that. Even if so, what's 0.2% of 7.837 billion?

Of those that died or with severe illness were over the life expectancy age and or had comorbidity

You didn't finish your thought.

 

[veni vidi vici]

FTFY

It's semantics, but one gets infected with a virus (could be impactful or not) but contracts COVID-19.

Do you mean SARS-CoV-2? If so, I doubt that. Even if so, what's 0.2% of 7.837 billion?

You didn't finish your thought.

Very few died or contracted SARS-CoV-2
In China during the first year and before the vaccine

 

[Marty Gingras]

Very few died or contracted SARS-CoV-2
In China during the first year and before the vaccine

Well, yeah, that’s because they had lockdowns the likes of which the world has never seen.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Well, yeah, that’s because they had lockdowns the likes of which the world has never seen.

No , it’s because they lie

 

[Chief Stipe]

Well, yeah, that’s because they had lockdowns the likes of which the world has never seen.

Which only delayed the inevitable and made their population more vulnerable.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

You definition of data is?

anecdote plus proof minus emotion

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Very few died or contracted SARS-CoV-2

you know this how?

 

[veni vidi vici]

anecdote plus proof minus emotion

Russian Collusion?

 

[veni vidi vici]

you know this how?

Well… that is what China was reporting

 

[Jules]

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The most contagious and deadly of all diseases is stupidity.

 

[Marty Gingras]

Which only delayed the inevitable and made their population more vulnerable.

That remains to be seen doesn’t it? Depends on which strain goes rampant. I’m hearing mostly omicron, which isn’t nearly as nasty as the original strain. Crossing fingers, of course, that they don’t develop some new shitty strain.

 

[veni vidi vici]

That remains to be seen doesn’t it? Depends on which strain goes rampant. I’m hearing mostly omicron, which isn’t nearly as nasty as the original strain. Crossing fingers, of course, that they don’t develop some new shitty strain.

Was that a slip ?
Or have you always believed it was a lab leak?
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[MR.CLEAN]

Well… that is what China was reporting

Sounds reliable (derp)

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Russian Collusion?

What's collusion?

 

[veni vidi vici]

Sounds reliable (derp)

Are you slipping or is it the antidepressants