Getting tough with the anti-vaxxers

Marty Gingras

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Subtract those that would have normally died and within the 3 year period and quote the number of people that actually died of Covid..
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Subtract those that would have normally died and within the 3 year period and quote the number of people that actually died of Covid.

3.5 million of the USA population die each year.
Oddly no one died from seasonal flu during the covid years
Not so odd that hospitals had a financial incentive to treat “covid” patients
 

Marty Gingras

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How reliable is the figure of 1.1 millions cause of death? Not very reliable at all.
It's reliable enough to be one of the multiple lines of evidence that COVID-19 has been a new and very significant cause of death.
The USA does not have a centralised registry of everyone who has been vaccinated how can you verify who is or isn't vaccinated?
Not sure what your point is in that regard.
 

Mid

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at what point did the anti vax movement become so prevelent ?

for those of my generation , we simple lined up at school and received the prescribed jabs .

wasn't even a note to parents to advise them in advance , basically their first knowledge was the cursory what happened at school today quiz :)

If there's evidence of mass deaths from such vax's I certainally missed it .
 

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at what point did the anti vax movement become so prevelent ?

for those of my generation , we simple lined up at school and received the prescribed jabs .

wasn't even a note to parents to advise them in advance , basically their first knowledge was the cursory what happened at school today quiz :)

If there's evidence of mass deaths from such vax's I certainally missed it .
Yep, our parents had firsthand memory of the deaths, injuries, paralysis caused by disease. The anti-vaxxers are too stupid to foresee what really happens when Darwin has his way with us.
 
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Marty Gingras

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The science

Your Kindly Retired English Nurse YouTuber is a f'ing dud!

His biggest problem, apart from being a money-grubber whoring for his YouTube income, is that he doesn't do syntheses of the available information. It's like he's attempting to play checkers in a 3-D Chess world. He's utterly out of his league and harmful. Suggest you watch this video and routinely its channel:

 

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Your Kindly Retired English Nurse YouTuber is a f'ing dud!

His biggest problem, apart from being a money-grubber whoring for his YouTube income, is that he doesn't do syntheses of the available information. It's like he's attempting to play checkers in a 3-D Chess world. He's utterly out of his league and harmful. Suggest you watch this video and routinely its channel:


Facts
Don’t get lost on the messenger

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It's not the messenger. It's that he doesn't demonstrate a mastery of the facts, so he misleads you and others.
We don’t need a bivalient booster for omicron
The original coronavirus is mutated into a much much weaker strain and the global population especially those that did not shut in and shut down have heathy herd immunity now.
 

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It's not the messenger. It's that he doesn't demonstrate a mastery of the facts, so he misleads you and others.
If he was misleading YouTube would have shut him down!
He is presenting published peer reviewed medical evidence. The threat from the virus is over, the threat from the vaccines is just beginning to be understood
 

Marty Gingras

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The original coronavirus is mutated into a much much weaker strain and the global population especially those that did not shut in and shut down have heathy herd immunity now.

I generally agree, such that now --- much more than before Omicron --- we need to weigh the risk:benefit of vaccination. I appreciate that that's your primary message these days.

Before getting the bivalent about a month ago, I spent many (many) hours reading scientific papers (I'm a retired biologist, so it's a pleasure) and watching credible videos (emphasis on syntheses), then pondering my priorities and health. The only concern that resonated with me is that heart muscle doesn't heal and vaccinations --- not just against COVID-19 --- often cause a little bit of heart inflammation, such that the heart weakens over time w/the number of vaccinations. I took the covalent because I'm healthy and old enough that I'm not worried about a few more COVID boosters, I despise getting severe flu-like symptoms, and I sure as shit don't want to get long COVID. Crossing my fingers that SARS-CoV-2 continues to mutate in a benign direction.

If he was misleading YouTube would have shut him down! He is presenting published peer reviewed medical evidence.

He's misleading by --- basically --- failing to provide proper context. It's sorta like someone who avoids fiberglass boats because fiberglass boats sometimes get blisters. YouTube does nothing about that type of misleading video.
 


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