Getting tough with the anti-vaxxers

Raz'r

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Personally, I'm going to be curious to see how people's attitudes change, now that the price of the mRNA vaccines are going up 400%.

If you support vaccine mandates, does that mean you're shilling for big pharma?

Can the artist be separated from the art?
what mandates are you referring to?
 
Are there any mandates impacting you? None that I know of impacting me.
It's been a really positive experience for me!
Rather than get the jibby-jab, I retired early! Really early!
Don't miss having to tolerate a bunch of finger-waggling gadflies that talk about covid and boosters and masks and how many times they've caught covid like it's some kind of a scavenger hunt trophy. 🤣
 

NeedAClew

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Good. Y'all do y'all. Covid is over in the US. Not for me but #becausefreedom I can do what I want. No mask doc? Fine, got mine.
 

Raz'r

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Good. Y'all do y'all. Covid is over in the US. Not for me but #becausefreedom I can do what I want. No mask doc? Fine, got mine.
Yep, I occasionally wear a mask when I feel it's necessary or a friend has asked. Doing that avoided covid until just a month ago, when I had to go to a work event, of all places Austin. New I'd finally get it, and did, but since I had effective vaccines, a couple days of fever and 3 weeks of a sinus infection and it was done. Whole lot better than ending up in hospital on a vent. But, if that's what y'all choose, who am I to give a damn?
 

veni vidi vici

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You must understand that virtually every single person was exposed to the coronavirus, some people were unlucky and their immune systems were overwhelmed and they had varying degrees of complications including many deaths.
Sadly the phony vaccine didn’t seem to make any difference. By the time the population was fully vaccinated the virus had naturally mutated into something not as severe as the original strain.
I was fully vaccinated and among the first to receive the vaccine, just so you don’t think I am a antivaxer.
 

Steam Flyer

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You must understand that virtually every single person was exposed to the coronavirus, some people were unlucky and their immune systems were overwhelmed and they had varying degrees of complications including many deaths.
Sadly the phony vaccine didn’t seem to make any difference. By the time the population was fully vaccinated the virus had naturally mutated into something not as severe as the original strain.
I was fully vaccinated and among the first to receive the vaccine, just so you don’t think I am a antivaxer.

No, you're just fully immersed in the bullshit.

Current death rate in the US, 400~800 deaths per day. 5X as many unvaxxed as vaxxed.
That's the difference it "doesn't make."
 

Chief Stipe

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No, you're just fully immersed in the bullshit.

Current death rate in the US, 400~800 deaths per day. 5X as many unvaxxed as vaxxed.
That's the difference it "doesn't make."
What's the excess death rate? 400 to 800 deaths a day represents 5% to 10% of the expected all cause daily deaths of 8,000.
 

Raz'r

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No, you're just fully immersed in the bullshit.

Current death rate in the US, 400~800 deaths per day. 5X as many unvaxxed as vaxxed.
That's the difference it "doesn't make."
And if you look at the death "rate" - its much more pronounced since so many have at least the first 2 shots.
 

NeedAClew

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US deaths from covid by vax status
Linear https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status
Can shift to log view if you know what that is...to see the scrunched up squiggles at the end spread out...never mind, cheap stripe. Can mess with age group too.

Frankly it looks better to be boosted. Especially if older. Vax wanes, no lie there. Old farts that grudgingly got just 2 shots over a year ago are the vaxxed deaths. The worried well are, well, bivalent boosted and not dying like their rough and tumble age peers.
 
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veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
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US deaths from covid by vax status
Linear https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status
And
Log (for the sophisticated reader not you CheapStripe) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

Frankly it looks better to be boosted. Vax wanes, no lie there. Old farts that grudgingly got just 2 shots over a year ago are the vaxxed deaths. The worried well are, well, bivalent boosted and not dying.
You believe the government?
 

Raz'r

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US deaths from covid by vax status
Linear https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status
Can shift to log view if you know what that is...to see the scrunched up squiggles at the end spread out...never mind, cheap stripe. Can mess with age group too.

Frankly it looks better to be boosted. Especially if older. Vax wanes, no lie there. Old farts that grudgingly got just 2 shots over a year ago are the vaxxed deaths. The worried well are, well, bivalent boosted and not dying like their rough and tumble age peers.
10x higher death rate for the unvaxxed. Anti-vax is like the lottery, a game you play if you don't understand math.
 

Chief Stipe

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That's 400

That's 400~800 dying of covid infection.

Oh wait, you don't believe that's real. OK, call it the "Easter Bunny" then. Better, huh?
Dying WITH Covid infection. All the Covidians raged on about excess deaths caused by Covid but when the truth becomes inconvenient revert back to the misleading metric of death WITH Covid. I guess in your old age you are back to believing in the Tooth Fairy?
 

Chief Stipe

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US deaths from covid by vax status
Linear https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status
Can shift to log view if you know what that is...to see the scrunched up squiggles at the end spread out...never mind, cheap stripe. Can mess with age group too.

Frankly it looks better to be boosted. Especially if older. Vax wanes, no lie there. Old farts that grudgingly got just 2 shots over a year ago are the vaxxed deaths. The worried well are, well, bivalent boosted and not dying like their rough and tumble age peers.
Suggest you investigate what unvaccinated means. Is "unknown" treated as unvaccinated?

Have the unboosted been recorded as unvaccinated?

Regardless a more accurate measurement would adjust to account for expected mortality.

BTW the Ourworldindata sources the CDC data for the USA graphs. Ample evidence around to show that data is fudged.
 

Steam Flyer

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Dying WITH Covid infection. All the Covidians raged on about excess deaths caused by Covid but when the truth becomes inconvenient revert back to the misleading metric of death WITH Covid. I guess in your old age you are back to believing in the Tooth Fairy?

All forms of death are due to heart failure, nudge nudge wink wink.

Don't you ever get tired of having to hunt around for new lies, as to why your "explanation" is "true" and actual science/medicine is not?
 

Raz'r

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Suggest you investigate what unvaccinated means. Is "unknown" treated as unvaccinated?

Have the unboosted been recorded as unvaccinated?

Regardless a more accurate measurement would adjust to account for expected mortality.

BTW the Ourworldindata sources the CDC data for the USA graphs. Ample evidence around to show that data is fudged.
The bullshitter's still bullshitting. Why? Lose someone close to covid, and trying to justify your culpability?

The rest of us have moved on. Want to die from Covid? Pretty much your choice these days.
 


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