GGR 2022

[Jambalaya]

Thanks for headsail info and links. I have seen and used multiple headsails inc poling out but had never seen this type of sail, obviously I haven't been paying attention !

Simon is now heading in the right direction and K seems to be going backwards

 

[Jambalaya]

I wondered whether Simon's backwards vmg was due to Southern Ocean current but after a little research that's only helpful

The Southern Ocean’s global reach

www.antarctica.gov.au

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

Thanks for headsail info and links. I have seen and used multiple headsails inc poling out but had never seen this type of sail, obviously I haven't been paying attention !

Dunno if it’s (North Tradewind) a new-ish thing that North Sails is pushing now? But I recently bought a new headsail while investigating various options, and my sailmaker (not North) also suggested that type of set up. (In the end I didn’t go with it, out of cost [you’re basically buying two sails], among other considerations.

 

[longy]

This type of sail setting has been known/used for ever. All the early voyager sailors had some variant of this. Only modern detail is connecting both sails to a single luff tape so as to roll/unroll together. Used to have to stagger the sail hanks of both sails then hoist two sails at once, also would have to drop both sails to reduce sail area.

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

This type of sail setting has been known/used for ever.

For sure - by “newish” in my post above, I meant a new variation of the traditional twin headsail rig (which I think was a thing for self-steering, both sheets led to the tiller, before mechanical self-steering was invented...back in the mists of time...

 

[longy]

The only "new" bit (to my knowledge) is sailing with both sails on one side - have to have computer cutting panels to make the two sails identical enuff for this to work well. And good fabrics

 

[Jambalaya]

This type of sail setting has been known/used for ever. All the early voyager sailors had some variant of this. Only modern detail is connecting both sails to a single luff tape so as to roll/unroll together. Used to have to stagger the sail hanks of both sails then hoist two sails at once, also would have to drop both sails to reduce sail area.

I was familiar with twin headsails poled out for going ddw but had never seen the single luff before (although it now turns out a cruising sailor I know has one)

Below is cover of a book about a transatlantic crossing around 1952 in a small boat called Sopranino I know a little about having helped fund it's restoration.

 

[longy]

^^ Boats of that era would run twin headstays, so each sail could be hoisted/doused on it's own

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

A turtle arrives in Hobart, as the Sydney-Hobart supermaxis, at speeds well in excess of 20 kts converge there as well: Abhilash Tomy at the Hobart Gate. After a very long road that included his pitchpole, back injury, and boat abandonment and rescue back in the 2018 GGR. NNE 30 gusting 40 at Tasman Island just east of there, so good timing to come in. Well done!

 

[Jambalaya]

YB tracker says Simon is 1480 miles ahead but by my calculation it's around 180 miles

 

[Joakim]

YB tracker says Simon is 1480 miles ahead but by my calculation it's around 180 miles

Now it says 90 while I got about 200 with the ruler. The DTF shown is just totally unreliable most of the time.

According to YB tracker Kirsten has sailed 1530 M in 24h and recent VMG is 133 knots. So she has made the jump Simon made a few days earlier.

 

[mightyhartley]

Not really that new, Ljungstrom was fiddling with it in the 1930s at least:

Ljungström rig - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[GlennP]

I set up my boat with twin headsails, some years back, to do the Single Handed Transpac. At the time, the old time sailmaker I was working with advised twin headsails originally were meant to be tacked down on opposite sides of the deck, on the rails, abaft the stem head a couple of feet - leaving a significant gap, or slot, in the middle, between each luff rope. apparently this slot effect significantly reduced, or eliminated downwind rolling. Also made the boat more easily accommodating to self steering methods of the day. Alas, I never tried it. So have no practical experience in the matter. Always hoped to find the time and the money to experiment - but never did. However, as I recall, the method dates back well into the 1950’s or earlier…

An alternate method with twin headsails is to rig a single, free flying whisker pole to connect both clews of the headsails. Then trim the headsails as if they were a square sail , with the whisker pole flying free forward of the mast - attached only at the two clews. I found this to be a very effective method for downwind sail control. But you need wide open ocean and a long passage to be worth the effort to set flying and take down… definitely not a round the bouys racing technique…

 

[Jambalaya]

Simon seems to have more than doubled his lead on the water to 460 miles now by my calculation. That's about 80+ hours so back well ahead after adjusting for K's redress of 35hrs. His move well inshore around Stewart Island seems to have paid off handsomely

 

[littlechay]

Simon seems to have more than doubled his lead on the water to 460 miles now by my calculation. That's about 80+ hours so back well ahead after adjusting for K's redress of 35hrs. His move well inshore around Stewart Island seems to have paid off handsomely

He will be around 600 nM ahead by the time the chasing two get into good breeze again.

 

[hughw]

twin poled headsails - many years back took a Swan 37 - tiller steered - across to Martinique then Trinidad and used twin poles and headsails and got that to self steer most of the way across.
System was to take the pole guys back and onto the tiller, had adjustment tackles P&S, and then with the adjustment could self steer accurately any course up to about 30 degrees off ddw happy as Larry. Worked a treat!

 

[Laser1]

Simon has left the building. Let's see how far this bungee stretches.

 

[Laser1]

Kirsten will be pretty p*ssed when Abhilash scoots by. Wonder if her daily texts will get any shorter

 

[Hukilau]

"Happy as Larry". That's a new one for me. Love it.

 

[littlechay]

"Happy as Larry". That's a new one for me. Love it.

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