Ginni and Clarence Thomas need to testify before the 1/6 Committee

badlatitude

Super Anarchist
28,918
4,752
Rick Wilson has somethinng to say about Democratic spines and the media.

Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project Puts the Ginny Thomas Scandal in Perspective. 
sharecare 
Community (This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication.) 
Friday March 25, 2022 · 5:42 PM EDT 


So Rick Wilson of the Lincoln project has basically demonstrated in a pretty nice Twitter rant, the hollowness and hypocrisy of the Republican party regarding the Ginny Thomas scandal, but also how Republicans have really become masters at working the referees and how outrageous that has become. To save time I’ve consolidated the thread in a quote below: 
 

Imagine for a moment what the Republicans would say if the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice nominated by a Democrat joined in a conspiracy..to overthrow a free and fair American election. Imagine she or he was part of a conspiracy to launch a violent, shock-and-awe attack on the Capitol in its furtherance. An attack that led to lives lost, our Capitol desecrated. 

Imagine their response as she was discovered in the days leading up to the attack to be texting and emailing a Democratic White House Chief of Staff, encouraging him to illegally overturn the election and promote lurid conspiracy nonsense. Imagine she promoted the idea Republicans were "being arrested & detained for ballot fraud right now & over coming days, & will be living in barges off GITMO to face military tribunals for sedition.” 

Now imagine her husband was the sole vote to protect the losing President from scrutiny. I'll tell you what they'd do.They'd burn Washington to the damn ground.They'd salt the earth.They'd call for sanctions, impeachment, removal. 

Their powerful media apparatus would turn it into a 24/7 scandal story that would never ever disappear. Facebook would amplify (and monetize!) a million pages calling for the removal of said Justice. 

They'd hold hearings and drag every person involved before them...in a televised Great Spectacle. It would become a centerpiece of their messaging for ages. It would be a drumbeat about the corruption of the opposing party.It would motivate no end of earnest op-eds from the gentry media. 

The GOP silence now is telling. They've become masters are working the media refs. This isn't a trivial little scandal. It's real, it stinks, and it's outrageous.


One of the reasons I wanted to post this is because right now, Democrat's in the Senate are demanding Clarence Thomas recuse himself from any cases involving Jan 6th or Trump’s election. 

To me that seems about 1/1000th as strong as it should be.  Democrats should be demanding Thomas recuse himself permanently from the Supreme Court! They should be calling for hearings They should be asking their colleagues during the current confirmation fight why they are not speaking out about this outrage? They should be talking about the corruption of past decisions. This isn’t even the first time with the Thomas's. Democrats should be loudly pointing out if you don’t Believe in Free elections or Democracy itself, how can you be trusted to serve on the highest court in the land? 

In my opinion we can learn from Republicans on messaging. They would salt the earth as Rick Wilson has stated. I realize we don’t have talk radio and our own news network but that doesn’t mean we can’t do something. We need bring the kind of outrage Republicans would to this issue. We need to call on our elected officials and ask for hearings ask for resignations We need to embrace the power of spectacle. 

MAKE THIS WOMAN TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS!!!! PUT IT ON TELEVISION!! Don’t say things like “This is disturbing!” call it an attack on our Democracy. IT IS! Call it Corruption. IT IS! Say that this has placed the entire legitimacy of the Supreme Court in question. IT HAS!! Just don’t be mild in your response. 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/25/2088163/-Rick-Wilson-puts-the-Ginny-Thomas-scandal-in-perspective 

 

Gouvernail

Lottsa people don’t know I’m famous
37,648
5,221
Austin Texas
They need to explain to racist Indiana Senator Mike Braun why a white woman is married to a darkie.  Racist Braun wants to protect the white population from pollution by darkie genes. 

 

Sol Rosenberg

Girthy Member
93,202
10,914
Earth
Rick Wilson has somethinng to say about Democratic spines and the media.

Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project Puts the Ginny Thomas Scandal in Perspective. 
sharecare 
Community (This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication.) 
Friday March 25, 2022 · 5:42 PM EDT 


So Rick Wilson of the Lincoln project has basically demonstrated in a pretty nice Twitter rant, the hollowness and hypocrisy of the Republican party regarding the Ginny Thomas scandal, but also how Republicans have really become masters at working the referees and how outrageous that has become. To save time I’ve consolidated the thread in a quote below: 
 

Imagine for a moment what the Republicans would say if the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice nominated by a Democrat joined in a conspiracy..to overthrow a free and fair American election. Imagine she or he was part of a conspiracy to launch a violent, shock-and-awe attack on the Capitol in its furtherance. An attack that led to lives lost, our Capitol desecrated. 

Imagine their response as she was discovered in the days leading up to the attack to be texting and emailing a Democratic White House Chief of Staff, encouraging him to illegally overturn the election and promote lurid conspiracy nonsense. Imagine she promoted the idea Republicans were "being arrested & detained for ballot fraud right now & over coming days, & will be living in barges off GITMO to face military tribunals for sedition.” 

Now imagine her husband was the sole vote to protect the losing President from scrutiny. I'll tell you what they'd do.They'd burn Washington to the damn ground.They'd salt the earth.They'd call for sanctions, impeachment, removal. 

Their powerful media apparatus would turn it into a 24/7 scandal story that would never ever disappear. Facebook would amplify (and monetize!) a million pages calling for the removal of said Justice. 

They'd hold hearings and drag every person involved before them...in a televised Great Spectacle. It would become a centerpiece of their messaging for ages. It would be a drumbeat about the corruption of the opposing party.It would motivate no end of earnest op-eds from the gentry media. 

The GOP silence now is telling. They've become masters are working the media refs. This isn't a trivial little scandal. It's real, it stinks, and it's outrageous.


One of the reasons I wanted to post this is because right now, Democrat's in the Senate are demanding Clarence Thomas recuse himself from any cases involving Jan 6th or Trump’s election. 

To me that seems about 1/1000th as strong as it should be.  Democrats should be demanding Thomas recuse himself permanently from the Supreme Court! They should be calling for hearings They should be asking their colleagues during the current confirmation fight why they are not speaking out about this outrage? They should be talking about the corruption of past decisions. This isn’t even the first time with the Thomas's. Democrats should be loudly pointing out if you don’t Believe in Free elections or Democracy itself, how can you be trusted to serve on the highest court in the land? 

In my opinion we can learn from Republicans on messaging. They would salt the earth as Rick Wilson has stated. I realize we don’t have talk radio and our own news network but that doesn’t mean we can’t do something. We need bring the kind of outrage Republicans would to this issue. We need to call on our elected officials and ask for hearings ask for resignations We need to embrace the power of spectacle. 

MAKE THIS WOMAN TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS!!!! PUT IT ON TELEVISION!! Don’t say things like “This is disturbing!” call it an attack on our Democracy. IT IS! Call it Corruption. IT IS! Say that this has placed the entire legitimacy of the Supreme Court in question. IT HAS!! Just don’t be mild in your response. 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/25/2088163/-Rick-Wilson-puts-the-Ginny-Thomas-scandal-in-perspective 
He’s pretty spot on there. He’s been saying much of that on his Twitter. The democRATS need to realize that while they are playing checkers, the GOP is playing Fuck You, We Are Storming the Capitol to Smear Shit Around. They are not dealing with good faith policy differences, they are dealing with people who want to end our system of government.

 

kent_island_sailor

Super Anarchist
26,904
4,872
Kent Island!
Rick Wilson has somethinng to say about Democratic spines and the media.

Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project Puts the Ginny Thomas Scandal in Perspective. 
sharecare 
Community (This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication.) 
Friday March 25, 2022 · 5:42 PM EDT 


So Rick Wilson of the Lincoln project has basically demonstrated in a pretty nice Twitter rant, the hollowness and hypocrisy of the Republican party regarding the Ginny Thomas scandal, but also how Republicans have really become masters at working the referees and how outrageous that has become. To save time I’ve consolidated the thread in a quote below: 
 

Imagine for a moment what the Republicans would say if the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice nominated by a Democrat joined in a conspiracy..to overthrow a free and fair American election. Imagine she or he was part of a conspiracy to launch a violent, shock-and-awe attack on the Capitol in its furtherance. An attack that led to lives lost, our Capitol desecrated. 

Imagine their response as she was discovered in the days leading up to the attack to be texting and emailing a Democratic White House Chief of Staff, encouraging him to illegally overturn the election and promote lurid conspiracy nonsense. Imagine she promoted the idea Republicans were "being arrested & detained for ballot fraud right now & over coming days, & will be living in barges off GITMO to face military tribunals for sedition.” 

Now imagine her husband was the sole vote to protect the losing President from scrutiny. I'll tell you what they'd do.They'd burn Washington to the damn ground.They'd salt the earth.They'd call for sanctions, impeachment, removal. 

Their powerful media apparatus would turn it into a 24/7 scandal story that would never ever disappear. Facebook would amplify (and monetize!) a million pages calling for the removal of said Justice. 

They'd hold hearings and drag every person involved before them...in a televised Great Spectacle. It would become a centerpiece of their messaging for ages. It would be a drumbeat about the corruption of the opposing party.It would motivate no end of earnest op-eds from the gentry media. 

The GOP silence now is telling. They've become masters are working the media refs. This isn't a trivial little scandal. It's real, it stinks, and it's outrageous.


One of the reasons I wanted to post this is because right now, Democrat's in the Senate are demanding Clarence Thomas recuse himself from any cases involving Jan 6th or Trump’s election. 

To me that seems about 1/1000th as strong as it should be.  Democrats should be demanding Thomas recuse himself permanently from the Supreme Court! They should be calling for hearings They should be asking their colleagues during the current confirmation fight why they are not speaking out about this outrage? They should be talking about the corruption of past decisions. This isn’t even the first time with the Thomas's. Democrats should be loudly pointing out if you don’t Believe in Free elections or Democracy itself, how can you be trusted to serve on the highest court in the land? 

In my opinion we can learn from Republicans on messaging. They would salt the earth as Rick Wilson has stated. I realize we don’t have talk radio and our own news network but that doesn’t mean we can’t do something. We need bring the kind of outrage Republicans would to this issue. We need to call on our elected officials and ask for hearings ask for resignations We need to embrace the power of spectacle. 

MAKE THIS WOMAN TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS!!!! PUT IT ON TELEVISION!! Don’t say things like “This is disturbing!” call it an attack on our Democracy. IT IS! Call it Corruption. IT IS! Say that this has placed the entire legitimacy of the Supreme Court in question. IT HAS!! Just don’t be mild in your response. 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/25/2088163/-Rick-Wilson-puts-the-Ginny-Thomas-scandal-in-perspective 
Democrats couldn't beat a preschool class in a spelling bee. The Republicans constantly lob slow pitches right over the plate while Democrats constantly worry that hitting the ball might hurt someone's feelings and strike out.

Memo to Joe Biden - you all might have been one big happy family 30 or 40 years ago but those days are NEVER coming back, they see you as nothing but an enemy to be defeated by any means necessary.

 
Last edited by a moderator:

Ishmael

Yes, we have no bananas
50,754
11,146
Fuctifino
Democrats couldn't beat a preschool class in a spelling bee. The Republicans constantly lob slow pitches right over the plate while Democrats constantly worry that hitting the ball might hurt someone's feelings and strike out.

Memo to Joe Biden - you all might have been one big happy family 30 or 40 years ago but those days are NEVER coming back, they see you as nothing but an enemy to be defeated by any means necessary.
Time to play hardball. I'd start with shooting Margarine Traitor Greene on the White House lawn.

 

badlatitude

Super Anarchist
28,918
4,752
He’s pretty spot on there. He’s been saying much of that on his Twitter. The democRATS need to realize that while they are playing checkers, the GOP is playing Fuck You, We Are Storming the Capitol to Smear Shit Around. They are not dealing with good faith policy differences, they are dealing with people who want to end our system of government.
The Democrats are the reasoned arbiters of polite politics. The Republicans are the decayed result of right wing evangelism and new money Wall St, they also own the media. It's a losing battle, and as long as the media ignores half the nation, that's the way it will stay.

 

badlatitude

Super Anarchist
28,918
4,752
So, why hasn't the FBI seized the Thomas' laptops?? One would reasonably conclude that waiting destroys evidence. Are there junior jurists too afraid to issue a warrant for a Supreme?

 

dfw_sailor

Super Anarchist
1,418
551
DFW
Whats is needed is simply to advertise heavily what the rw side of the GOP wants :

- no to abortion, under any circumstance

- no to inter racial marriage - which would have to mean DNA testing. and gubermint approval required before you marry your fiance

- no to birth control of any form (states get to decide if married couples should be allowed to use contraception - ignoring the non married for now)

- allow rapist's families to personally sue abortion providers

- nationalized religion - which flavor of christianity?

- making it harder for the marginalized to vote

- clarence thomas refusing to recuse, hiding his wifes activities from the jan 6 committee

- decreasing taxes on the rich, massively increasing taxes on the middle class

- reducing mental health counselling funding for kids (personal knowledge here in Texas)

- book burning

- GOP rw takeover of local government and schools

Until middle of the road GOP (does it exist anymore?) renounces all of the above repeatedly, push and push the above in both logical and emotional versions.

Then it is up to the democrat voters to decide if they want to get off their asses and vote.

 

Ishmael

Yes, we have no bananas
50,754
11,146
Fuctifino
Whats is needed is simply to advertise heavily what the rw side of the GOP wants :

- no to abortion, under any circumstance

- no to inter racial marriage - which would have to mean DNA testing. and gubermint approval required before you marry your fiance

- no to birth control of any form (states get to decide if married couples should be allowed to use contraception - ignoring the non married for now)

- allow rapist's families to personally sue abortion providers

- nationalized religion - which flavor of christianity?

- making it harder for the marginalized to vote

- clarence thomas refusing to recuse, hiding his wifes activities from the jan 6 committee

- decreasing taxes on the rich, massively increasing taxes on the middle class

- reducing mental health counselling funding for kids (personal knowledge here in Texas)

- book burning

- GOP rw takeover of local government and schools

Until middle of the road GOP (does it exist anymore?) renounces all of the above repeatedly, push and push the above in both logical and emotional versions.

Then it is up to the democrat voters to decide if they want to get off their asses and vote.
Showing people that it isn't a total lost cause by indicting Trump and his co-conspirators for a myriad of crimes would be a good start.

 

bridhb

Super Anarchist
3,592
1,036
Jax, FL
Whats is needed is simply to advertise heavily what the rw side of the GOP wants :

- no to abortion, under any circumstance

- no to inter racial marriage - which would have to mean DNA testing. and gubermint approval required before you marry your fiance

- no to birth control of any form (states get to decide if married couples should be allowed to use contraception - ignoring the non married for now)

- allow rapist's families to personally sue abortion providers

- nationalized religion - which flavor of christianity?

- making it harder for the marginalized to vote

- clarence thomas refusing to recuse, hiding his wifes activities from the jan 6 committee

- decreasing taxes on the rich, massively increasing taxes on the middle class

- reducing mental health counselling funding for kids (personal knowledge here in Texas)

- book burning

- GOP rw takeover of local government and schools

Until middle of the road GOP (does it exist anymore?) renounces all of the above repeatedly, push and push the above in both logical and emotional versions.

Then it is up to the democrat voters to decide if they want to get off their asses and vote.
Trouble is it seems about half the country want what you wrote.  And they seem to be the people motivated to vote.

 

dfw_sailor

Super Anarchist
1,418
551
DFW
Trouble is it seems about half the country want what you wrote.  And they seem to be the people motivated to vote.
I'm quite sure significantly more than half the women don't want it. It needs to be brought home what exactly the rw base wants to achieve.

In emotional terms. No nicey nicey. Show exactly what life would be like. 

 

jzk

Super Anarchist
12,081
361
No, you are deliberately not listening. Ms. Thomas' email and text messages directly involve her in a plot to overthrow an election. These records were certain to come to light if they were seen by the Jan. 6 investigative committee. She had to be aware of this. Trump sued to prevent these records from being subpoenaed. The suit was heard by the Supreme Court. There was only one vote in favor of Trump's position, Clarence Thomas.
So she sent some texts.  Why would she think they would come out from that subpoena?   So she got together with Clarence and had him be the lone dissent which would help them how?

 

Blue Crab

benthivore
15,387
2,388
Outer Banks
So she sent some texts.  Why would she think they would come out from that subpoena?   So she got together with Clarence and had him be the lone dissent which would help them how?
If mama ain't happy ...  but it sure seems like a wasted and just plain dumb gesture.

 

jzk

Super Anarchist
12,081
361
If mama ain't happy ...  but it sure seems like a wasted and just plain dumb gesture.
It is simply not believable.  Further, if he dissented just for that, he would have been better off keeping his powder dry for another day when it is 4-4.

 

Remodel

Super Anarchist
10,115
796
None
So she sent some texts.  Why would she think they would come out from that subpoena?   So she got together with Clarence and had him be the lone dissent which would help them how?
Do you honestly think that crazy woman thought any of this out beyond trying to cover her ass? Go read what has been released so far. She's probably guilty of sedition. Clarence doesn't think for himself, and while she's the one wearing the pants in that family, her thought processes are clearly not very cogent. Clarence does what he's told whether it makes sense or not.

 
Top