Girl with patreon account goes sailing in hot place

[TheDragon]

I have a collection of a few outstanding examples of the shells I have collected on beaches in FP and Fiji. I brought the vast majority home in my luggage for a friend who wanted them. But I want to keep the ten or so on my boat. So I emailed the Australian authorities about whether that was okay and they basically replied that it depended on the inspector at the border. As an entomologist I emphathize with their concern and have boiled the shells after thorough cleaning, and all were already cleaned by the ocean, none had someone living in them, but I'm still concerned they will be confiscated, so will probably try to mail them home from somewhere before I do the final leg to Australia this season.

 

[vibroman]

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I think that Australia's unbelievably strict rules catch many people off guard. Is there any other country that seizes canned food? Are you sure there is any disease that can be spread from canned food?

yes USA. Crossing from BC into Washington in RV Had some cans of Safeway brand Corned beef that were purchased in Denver taken away because they were products of Argentina. Cousins once tried to bring some commercially packaged smoked and cured Sausage into Canada from the UK … had it confiscated.

 

[Jim in Halifax]

...so will probably try to mail them home from somewhere before I do the final leg to Australia this season.

You could always mail them to yourself 'Poste Restante' at your port of arrival in Oz...

(be careful what you write on the customs declaration tho...)

 

[Jim in Halifax]

Hello all.
I think this post is most correct one to post in. There is so much trash in this thread that one more will not change a course of this thread

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[accnick]

When I visited it was a lot harder to check in advance. There was absolutely no intention of trying to get away with something. We would have probably showed up with bare cupboards if we knew what was in store for us but we didn't know.

The incident I am talking about with our boat was in 2000. We thought we had done our homework properly: no honey, fresh veggies, etc. aboard. We had dumped our veggies at sea well offshore. We had gone straight from NZ to AUS without stopping anywhere.

We had no intention of violating anyone's rules. We are not stupid, and have always complied, no matter how arbitrary any rule seems. Your country, your rules, and you probably have a good reason for them.

FKT seems to have forgotten how primitive communication was just 23 years ago, when this took place. There was virtually no wifi, and web browsing using a cellular signal was still basically impractical. Neither the phones not the cellular signal generally supported that. Websites were primitive. Once you left major metro areas, cellular service was non-existent in a lot of places.

Information about border policies was via the cruiser radio nets or a call or visit to a local consulate, like the AUS one in downtown Auckland, which is where we got our info.

At the end of the day, it was no big deal. We weren't trying to hide anything from anybody, and it was our fault that we failed to have a proper understanding of the rules that were in effect. It was costly, but that's the way it goes.

AUS was in strict border protection mode then, and probably still is, although I have gone in and out of airports in AUS repeatedly in recent years without any problems whatsoever. If you have forgotten you have food in your backpack, there are plenty of reminders and bins in which you can deposit stuff before going through border controls in the airport.

We spent about a month taking our boat up inside the Great Barrier Reef, over the top to Darwin. We practically got on a first name basis with the aircrews of the P3 that flew over us every couple of days patrolling the coast. Our boat was fairly distinctive, so even in pre-AIS days, they had no trouble identifying us.

They would often ask if we had seen some boat they were looking for. They knew where we came from, and where we were headed.

I was very impressed with the noise suppression they used on their radios. There was literally zero ambient aircraft noise in their radio transmissions.

Unlike countries such as the US, with its extensive land borders, island nations like AUS and NZ can effectively seal themselves off. The apparent laxness in some ways at US borders is the inevitable result of 3,000+ miles of porous land borders between the US, Canada, and Mexico. Controlling things at airports is at best putting a bandage on a gaping wound.

We can't keep those sneaky Canucks out. Most of them look like most of us, and even speak the same language. Maybe we should put some more effort into keeping their beer out of the US, however.

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

Buy an ad.

Or try: fuck off, spammer.

 

[chester]

We can't keep those sneaky Canucks out. Most of them look like most of us, and even speak the same language. Maybe we should put some more effort into keeping their beer out of the US, however.

 

[Kris Cringle]

Live the dream, all you need is Sailor Bert

 

[mcmurdo]

I have a few neighbours who moved here from rural Quebec. We have learned, when speaking with each other, to continually monitor the face for signs of bafflement. If the message is an important one, we make sure to text or email, so it is in writing and can be processed more slowly.

When they talk among themselves, I don't have a clue what they are saying.

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

C’est pas du tout la même langue, quoi! Alors, c’est presque pas le français!

 

[Diarmuid]

Is there any other country that seizes canned food? Are you sure there is any disease that can be spread from canned food?

At a guess, they were probably paranoid about BSE & related prion diseases, which may survive quite high cooking temperatures and have an indefinite shelf life.

https://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/chronic_wasting_disease.pdf

These protein-caused encephalopathies are still somewhat mysterious and may pass easily between mammal species, which is always a source of extra alarm. (BSE, CWD, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease all belong to the class, and there is clear evidence of domestic to wild to domestic transmission, and from both wild and domestic animal products to humans). As British farmers can tell you, it spreads quickly thru herds & the ensuing panic can destroy entire farming economies. Two farms owned by my wife's family in England shut down their animal operations entirely b/c they could not certify their farms were BSE-free and therefore could not sell their dairy or meat products at home or abroad.

The BSE scare was also, let us note here, a handy way for nations to protect their domestic agricultural sector from import competition. Many countries view food supplies as both strategic and political assets, subsidize agriculture heavily, and are keen to maximize exports while protecting against cheap foreign imports. So Japan, for example, kept a ban on British beef in place for 23 years.

That said, the political nuances of international ag trade are above our pay grade as cruisers.

ETA: Anthrax spores are also pretty rugged & may survive imperfect autoclaving.

Vegetative forms of Bacillus anthracis are easily killed during normal cooking procedures and common disinfection methods. Anthrax spores, on the other hand, are highly resistant to heat, dryness, deep freezing and common drinking water chlorination.

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

At a guess, they were probably paranoid about BSE & related prion diseases, which may survive quite high cooking temperatures and have an indefinite shelf life.

https://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/chronic_wasting_disease.pdf

These protein-caused encephalopathies are still somewhat mysterious and may pass easily between mammal species, which is always a source of extra alarm. (BSE, CWD, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease all belong to the class, and there is clear evidence of domestic to wild to domestic transmission, and from both wild and domestic animal products to humans). As British farmers can tell you, it spreads quickly thru herds & the ensuing panic can destroy entire farming economies. Two farms owned by my wife's family in England shut down their animal operations entirely b/c they could not certify their farms were BSE-free and therefore could not sell their dairy or meat products at home or abroad.

The BSE scare was also, let us note here, a handy way for nations to protect their domestic agricultural sector from import competition. Many countries view food supplies as both strategic and political assets, subsidize agriculture heavily, and are keen to maximize exports while protecting against cheap foreign imports. So Japan, for example, kept a ban on British beef in place for 23 years.

That said, the political nuances of international ag trade are above our pay grade as cruisers.

ETA: Anthrax spores are also pretty rugged & may survive imperfect autoclaving.

This is stellar thread drift. Never thought I’d see Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease discussed here.

Can we do syphilis, gonorrhoea, or elephantiasis next? That’ll keep the punters at bay!

 

[accnick]

This is stellar thread drift. Never thought I’d see Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease discussed here.

Can we do syphilis, gonorrhoea, or elephantiasis next? That’ll keep the punters at bay!

Only if it involves semi-dressed girls on a boat in tropical places. And probably not even then.

 

[olaf hart]

I have had a few wooden gifts confiscated by US customs when I mailed them from Tasmania to the USA.
Clearly they know nothing about the anti microbial properties of Huon Pine …

 

[olaf hart]

I think that Australia's unbelievably strict rules catch many people off guard. Is there any other country that seizes canned food? Are you sure there is any disease that can be spread from canned food?

Botulism?

 

[sculpin]

elephantitus? I think more sailing related might be the reggaemylitis

 

[mckenzie.keith]

Botulism?

OK, but only if the can has a pinhole or something. And anyway, the organism that causes botulism is endemic worldwide, so they are not keeping it out.

 

[Israel Hands]

meanwhile, nearly a million views

 

[Snowden]

No prizes for guessing what these peaks relate to

 

[Jud - s/v Sputnik]

This is stellar thread drift. Never thought I’d see Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease discussed here.

Can we do syphilis, gonorrhoea, or elephantiasis next? That’ll keep the punters at bay!

Ok, getting back on topic to border crossing with prohibited items, and northern sailing destinations . Alluring Arctic is over here these days, headed North (to ski Valdez, AK, I think). Just posted a few days ago.