Global Solo Challenge?

littlechay

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Why the fuck; if you wanted to single hand on a voyage around the world on a "voyage of self discovery" would you pay somebody to join an "event"? 

Some seriously shit boats for Europe round Antarctica event in that lost too! 

Edit... just found the bit where they want 7500 Euros out of each entrant plus carrying their branding for free etc... The big prize for being first..... 7500 Euros... somebody is having a laugh.

 
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Potter

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Why the fuck; if you wanted to single hand on a voyage around the world on a "voyage of self discovery" would you pay somebody to join an "event"? 

Some seriously shit boats for Europe round Antarctica event in that lost too! 

Edit... just found the bit where they want 7500 Euros out of each entrant plus carrying their branding for free etc... The big prize for being first..... 7500 Euros... somebody is having a laugh.
Gotta agree with that sentiment.  That said, there are plenty of people that want to step outside their comfort zone, but either don't know how or don't want to step too far.

There is as much chance of that getting off the ground as there is of 10 IMOCAS in the The ocean Race!

 

r.finn

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Why the fuck; if you wanted to single hand on a voyage around the world on a "voyage of self discovery" would you pay somebody to join an "event"? 

Some seriously shit boats for Europe round Antarctica event in that lost too! 

Edit... just found the bit where they want 7500 Euros out of each entrant plus carrying their branding for free etc... The big prize for being first..... 7500 Euros... somebody is having a laugh.
Because everyone knows that singlehanders are just sitting on money, waiting for someone to show them where to put it.

 

furler49

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It's interesting. Set up by an old Class40 sailor called Marco Nanini - no idea what he's been doing since, I think he's a finance guy but he'll get some entries. My biggest concern would be who are the OA. Maybe the info is easy to find and I'm just being lazy... 

If you want to race around the world solo and non-stop you've only got two options. The Vendée Globe or the Golden Globe. The first is financially unattainable and the latter is run by a loony.

 

Schakel

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That is a complicated issue.
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I guess the Golden globe race 2018 Is the format for this race.

 

littlechay

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If you want to race around the world solo and non-stop you've only got two options. The Vendée Globe or the Golden Globe. The first is financially unattainable and the latter is run by a loony.
With rules like this it is hardly a race. Stops, outside assistance etc. etc. It is a cruise in company and as somebody pointed out there are half a dozen of these events already. 

 

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Engines shafts are not sealed and motoring is permitted. A maximum fuel allowance at the start will be specified.

Really? 

 

littlechay

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MOTORING


Engines shafts are not sealed and motoring is permitted. A maximum fuel allowance at the start will be specified.

Really? 
Yea there is precedent or two for this... The maximum fuel allowance is (will probably be) so small that it wouldn't make any difference to finish position. That part is an OK rule in this case IMO. 

 

furler49

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With rules like this it is hardly a race. Stops, outside assistance etc. etc. It is a cruise in company and as somebody pointed out there are half a dozen of these events already. 
Admittedly and having now read the NOR it does seem like a cruise in company but for some it will certainly be a race. Genuinely interested in what these other half a dozen events that already exist are? I'm not aware of any others! 

 

littlechay

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Admittedly and having now read the NOR it does seem like a cruise in company but for some it will certainly be a race. Genuinely interested in what these other half a dozen events that already exist are? I'm not aware of any others! 
GGR, The French long route (whatever long route is in French), Jimmy Cornells ARC Global, and various other informal events. 

 

seasick

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It looks like an amazing opportunity for amateur sailors who maybe really want to do a big race but can't for whatever restrictions the other races impose that they can't meet. But how does a race like this one go ahead without the race itself having any corporate sponsors or partners to fund it? 

 

furler49

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It looks like an amazing opportunity for amateur sailors who maybe really want to do a big race but can't for whatever restrictions the other races impose that they can't meet. But how does a race like this one go ahead without the race itself having any corporate sponsors or partners to fund it? 
Realistically what costs do they have? Tracking, Website, Insurance, costs associated to people - wages, accommodation etc. I cannot imagine the budget requirement will be huge. If they get good buy in from teams then each persons €7,500 entry fee will go pretty far. This isn't trying to compete with the VG or the VOR. It's the following circus that costs the big bucks! 

 

seasick

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Realistically what costs do they have? Tracking, Website, Insurance, costs associated to people - wages, accommodation etc. I cannot imagine the budget requirement will be huge. If they get good buy in from teams then each persons €7,500 entry fee will go pretty far. This isn't trying to compete with the VG or the VOR. It's the following circus that costs the big bucks! 
The EUR7500 per person will go really far if it continues like this, but there's something that doesn't seem right about how it's set up. The organiser seems, from his public facebook page, to live in Italy - Brescia, it states. That's somewhere in Lombardy. The company behind the organisation of the race is a Ltd company registered in the UK. I mean, I'm sure there are reasons for it but shouldn't the entity running the race, given that its management and organisation comes from within Italy, be an Italian entity? I could see why this might not be the case if this were a once off thing but the company was incorporated in 2009, looking at the publicly available information at Companies House (actually just a google  search of its name). The organiser seems to have been living in Italy since around 2012 from looking at his list of accolades and medals (amazing achievements by the way, chapeau) on the "team" page of the race's site. I would worry, if I were a competitor spending this amount of money just to enter, that the race could be stopped for reasons to do with its organisation. You see, I think the organiser just might have perhaps got it wrong and perhaps an Italian SRL (similar to a UK Ltd company) should be set up to run the race if he wants to organise and manage it from within Italy. Or alternatively, the organiser should perhaps take himself off all the pages on the internet and be an invisible organiser /manager and appoint someone else who is clearly resident in the UK (as opposed to Italy), to avoid any risks that it could be seen as just another UK Ltd company operating within Italy and bending the rules, taking advantage of the more beneficial and easier system for companies in the UK versus Italy. Having said this, competitors maybe won't care as long as they get to do the race, and they're eager and willing to already part with their cash for it, so it may well be a non-point all around. Just important to note it, I think, for anyone who wants to delve a bit deeper. I think the costs of setting up an SRL to run this race would be in the region of EUR2,500 minimum, which is nothing given the money coming from the entry fees. This way the competitors could be sure that the underlying organisation and management is solid and there are no grey areas with regard to jurisdiction. 

 


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