Good Luck With That Rudy

badlatitude

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Hoo Boy, the Feds Sure Have a Lot of Dirt on Big Rudy

According the CNN, the new evidence accidentally disclosed by the attorney for Parnas includes messages from email and iCloud accounts belonging to Lutsenko and the former head of the Ukrainian Fiscal Service Roman Nasirov, as well as the cell phone and iPad of Alexander Levin, a pro-Trump Ukrainian businessman. The feds also have “historical and prospective cell site information” relating to Giuliani and Victoria Toensing, another lawyer and Trump ally who similarly has a complicated web of connections to Giuliani and Ukraine. (Toensing, whose offices were raided at the same time as Giuliani’s, has long advocated laws allowing greater surveillance of U.S. citizens.)

Attorneys for Parnas, who is facing campaign finance charges also related to Ukrainian dealings, wrote that Parnas had not been advised as required by the discovery process about evidence against him which had emerged via warrants against Giuliani and others. According to CNN, that filing was formatted in a matter that allowed the redactions to easily be stripped by “copying and pasting them into another document.”

Other remaining and former members of Trump’s inner circle have reportedly been terrified that they could get roped into prosecutors’ ongoing cleanup of various underlings left legally exposed after his debacle of a presidency. The broad scope of the investigation into Giuliani probably isn’t very reassuring. Giuliani apparently had some kind of falling out with Trump over his legal incompetence and embarrassing antics and is no longer representing him; the ex-president also reportedly stiffed Giuliani, refusing to pay his legal bills.
 It must hurt to know that Trump sits on a $250 million war chest but doesn't have enough to pay Rudy for his defense work. It would be a shame if Rudy had to give up someone to get a better deal.

 

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Rudy. Stiffed. I’m shocked.

I’m guessing Rudi who has spent his legal career chasing shitheads like Donnie except he was chasing the real shitheads that kill people for fun

Rudy prolly has saved something really incriminating just in case Donnie played this game.

Could get interesting.

 

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 It must hurt to know that Trump sits on a $250 million war chest but doesn't have enough to pay Rudy for his defense work. It would be a shame if Rudy had to give up someone to get a better deal.
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when this finally all dies down , no one of consequence will be affected .

best we can hope for is 'merica don't make the same mistake twice and that's no better than an even money bet .

 

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when this finally all dies down , no one of consequence will be affected .

best we can hope for is 'merica don't make the same mistake twice and that's no better than an even money bet .
That's what some of us said about Nixon, Reagan, Dubya...

The only saving grace is Bush 41, Ford (And Ford wasn't even that bad, he just had shit smeared on him by association).... And..... Um, that's it.

Trump may not be able to run in 24.... Or he may not be able to even babble at that point, but one of his wannabees will run as his proxy.

There's a whole boat load of stupid in this country right now, and it's not pretty.

 

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That's what some of us said about Nixon, Reagan, Dubya...

The only saving grace is Bush 41, Ford (And Ford wasn't even that bad, he just had shit smeared on him by association).... And..... Um, that's it.

Trump may not be able to run in 24.... Or he may not be able to even babble at that point, but one of his wannabees will run as his proxy.

There's a whole boat load of stupid in this country right now, and it's not pretty.
DeSantis will be the front runner to carry the Trumpaloon banner.  I read today he’s already got $40M in the bank.  Normally I wouldn’t worry but he’s got a shot if Kamala heads the Dem ticket.  

 

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DeSantis will be the front runner to carry the Trumpaloon banner.  I read today he’s already got $40M in the bank.  Normally I wouldn’t worry but he’s got a shot if Kamala heads the Dem ticket.  
Cruz thinks he is the front runner.

Unfortunately, the race they are winning is the one to the bottom.

 

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Michelle Wie West Was Ready to Retire. Then She Got Mad.

A golf phenom since she was 10, Michelle Wie West was ready to focus on motherhood. Rudy Giuliani’s vulgar remarks convinced her that she should keep fighting and playing.

When Wie West learned that she was having a daughter, her feelings about a comeback shifted for reasons she struggled to articulate. And then in February, a month before her official return, Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, appeared on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast and asked if he could share a “funny story” about Rush Limbaugh, who had recently died.

Giuliani recalled how Limbaugh had been perturbed by the photographers trailing them in a 2014 pro-am in which they were grouped with Wie West. Giuliani said that the “gorgeous” Wie West’s putting stance was attracting the photographers, who, he said, “were trying to take pictures of her panties.”

Giuliani’s comments crystallized Wie West’s reasons for a comeback, irking her into action. After 25 years of speaking into a microphone as a matter of duty, Wie West realized that she actually had a lot to say, and a return to competition would give her the platform to address inequities and ignorance that she hadn’t been aware of as a teenage phenom.

 

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Michelle Wie West Was Ready to Retire. Then She Got Mad.

A golf phenom since she was 10, Michelle Wie West was ready to focus on motherhood. Rudy Giuliani’s vulgar remarks convinced her that she should keep fighting and playing.

When Wie West learned that she was having a daughter, her feelings about a comeback shifted for reasons she struggled to articulate. And then in February, a month before her official return, Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, appeared on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast and asked if he could share a “funny story” about Rush Limbaugh, who had recently died.

Giuliani recalled how Limbaugh had been perturbed by the photographers trailing them in a 2014 pro-am in which they were grouped with Wie West. Giuliani said that the “gorgeous” Wie West’s putting stance was attracting the photographers, who, he said, “were trying to take pictures of her panties.”

Giuliani’s comments crystallized Wie West’s reasons for a comeback, irking her into action. After 25 years of speaking into a microphone as a matter of duty, Wie West realized that she actually had a lot to say, and a return to competition would give her the platform to address inequities and ignorance that she hadn’t been aware of as a teenage phenom.


You'd have to be either an 11-year-old boy, or an utter misogynist pig, to think that was "a funny story"

- DSK

 

hobie1616

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Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies

Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden. 

The audio is of a July 2019 phone call between Giuliani, US diplomat Kurt Volker, and Andriy Yermak, a senior adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The call was a precursor to Trump's infamous call with Zelensky, and both conversations later became a central part of Trump's first impeachment, where he was accused of soliciting Ukrainian help for his campaign.

During the roughly 40-minute call, Giuliani repeatedly told Yermak that Zelensky should publicly announce investigations into possible corruption by Biden in Ukraine, and into claims that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election to hurt Trump. (These separate claims are both untrue.)

"All we need from the President [Zelensky] is to say, I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be run out," Giuliani said, according to the audio. "... Somebody in Ukraine's gotta take that seriously."

The new audio demonstrates how Giuliani aggressively cajoled the Ukrainians to do Trump's bidding. And it undermines Trump's oft-repeated assertion that "there was no quid pro quo" where Zelensky could secure US government support if he did political favors for Trump.

The call was one of the opening salvos in the years-long quest by Trump and his allies to damage Biden and subvert the 2020 election process -- by solicitingforeign meddling, lying about voter fraud, attempting to overturn the results, and inciting the deadly January 6 assault on the Capitol. 

There is an ongoing criminal investigation into Giuliani and his Ukraine dealings, including whether he violated lobbying laws while coordinating with ex-officials who gave him dirt on the Bidens. The federal inquiry ramped up when the FBI raided Giuliani's home and office in late April. It's unclear if the call with Yermak is part of the investigation. Giuliani denies all wrongdoing.

 

hobie1616

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How federal prosecutors are pursuing Rudy Giuliani

After being under investigation by federal prosecutors for more than two years, Rudy Giuliani got a glimpse late last month of the possible charge authorities are eyeing for him: a breach of foreign lobbying laws connected to his work in Ukraine.

The potential crime, detailed on search warrants that federal agents executed on his Manhattan home and office, has often been dismissed by critics as a paperwork violation.

But legal experts say that particularly in Giuliani's case, a charge under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, which requires that individuals disclose with the Department of Justice lobbying activities on behalf of foreign governments or officials, should be regarded as a serious infraction, one with geopolitical implications. 

In recent years, it has been used to go after other allies of former President Donald Trump, including Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort.

"A FARA violation is much more than a failure to register with DOJ," said Daniel S. Goldman, a former federal prosecutor who was director of investigations for the House Intelligence Committee during the first impeachment of Trump, an inquiry that probed Giuliani's efforts in Ukraine. 

In Giuliani's case, Goldman said, the set of allegations "goes to the heart of our national security and our diplomatic and foreign relations."

Prosecutors are examining whether Giuliani may have been lobbying for Ukrainian officials when he sought the ouster of the then-US Ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch, and urged Ukraine to investigate Trump's political rival, then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, while pursuing those outcomes as Trump's attorney.

 

hobie1616

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Faulty redactions in court document show federal investigators seized more info in case against Rudy Giuliani than previously disclosed

New York federal prosecutors investigating Rudy Giuliani have seized material from a wider array of individuals than previously disclosed, including messages from email and iCloud accounts they believe belong to two former Ukrainian government officials, as well as the cell phone and iPad of a pro-Trump Ukrainian businessman, according to a court document unsealed Tuesday.

The court filing, which contained redacted portions that CNN was able to read by copying and pasting them into another document, also disclosed that federal prosecutors have "historical and prospective cell site information" related to Giuliani and another lawyer, Victoria Toensing, both of whom were the subjects of search warrants executed late last month.

The Ukrainians include the former Prosecutor General of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko, the former head of the Ukrainian Fiscal Service Roman Nasirov and businessman Alexander Levin.

The filing, written by an attorney for an indicted former Giuliani ally Lev Parnas, describes a chart in which federal prosecutors described the scope of the materials they sought and seized beginning in late 2019 and continuing through earlier this year.

Though prosecutors had previously indicated that their investigation was expansive and encompassed people beyond Giuliani and Toensing, they hadn't publicly identified the other recipients of subpoenas or subjects of search warrants.

Prosecutors are investigating whether Giuliani violated foreign lobbying laws by operating on behalf of Ukrainian officials when he sought the ouster of the then-US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, while urging Ukraine to investigate Trump's political rival, then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and his son Hunter, CNN has reported. 

Giuliani has said his activities in Ukraine were done in his capacity as a lawyer for his former client, former President Donald Trump, and that he "never represented a Ukrainian national or official before the United States government."

Prosecutors appear to have pursued material connected to Giuliani's efforts abroad. Lutsenko, whose email account prosecutors targeted, met with Giuliani several times, and several former US State Department officials testified that he was part of a smear campaign against Yovanovich. Lutsenko falsely said that Yovanovich was speaking negatively about Trump and that she gave him a "do not prosecute" list.

The nature of prosecutors' interest in material from Nasirov's email and iCloud accounts and from Levin's iPhone and iPad wasn't immediately clear.

Parnas' lawyer, Joseph Bondy, filed the letter on behalf of attorneys for all of the defendants in Parnas' case, asking a federal judge for a status conference on materials seized by authorities in the searches executed on Giuliani and Toensing in late April, saying the searches produced documents relevant to the case against Parnas, former Giuliani ally Igor Fruman and a third defendant, Andrey Kukushkin. All three have pleaded not guilty.

A spokesman for the Manhattan US Attorney's office declined to comment.

Bondy declined to comment, and Robert Costello, a lawyer for Giuliani, could not immediately be reached for comment. Toensing's lawyer declined to comment.

Bondy wrote that the evidence seized "likely includes e-mail, text, and encrypted communications" between Giuliani, Toensing, former President Donald Trump, former Attorney General Bill Barr, "high-level members of the Justice Department, Presidential impeachment attorneys Jay Sekulow, Jane Raskin and others, Senator Lindsey Graham, Congressman Devin Nunes and others, relating to the timing of the arrest and indictment of the defendants as a means to prevent potential disclosures to Congress in the first impeachment inquiry of then-President Donald. J. Trump."

In prior court filings, prosecutors disclosed they seized 18 electronic devices from Giuliani in late April and had covertly searched his iCloud account in 2019; they also acknowledged they took Toensing's cell phone during the April searches.

Because both Giuliani and Toensing are lawyers, they have been at odds with prosecutors over whether and how authorities may be able to access the material seized from those searches while protecting attorney-client privilege.

 
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