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Go Left

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I'd tell my people to use their touch, eyes, ears, nose and taste - nose and taste because of industrial fuel and gas and fumes, can displace oxygen, creating an oxygen depleted environment, as they learned in Confined Spaces: Entry and Egress, requiring testing and monitoring the safe oxygen levels. Some but not all smells, can be tasted and smelt.

Then I'd tell them never ever to ignore their sixth sense, when they feel something weird or dangerous is about to happen, then remove the restrictions that could be impairing their senses and look about to see what setting off the bells and alarms in their sixth sense. Hearing when ones vision is obscured, can tell one a lot about what's happening around them, don't ignore those weird sounds or feelings. Security is a state of mind and your bodyguard is your mind. If one fails to grasp this simple and fundamental rule, one can quickly find oneself the victim.

Foss Launch & Tug Company ("Foss"), owner of 202, delivered 202 to Todd's floating drydock on for routine service, the annual inspection required by law and such repairs as were indicated by the inspection. 202 was out of the water on blocks in Todd's drydock. At approximately 7:45 p. m. Stanley Olsen, in the course of his aforementioned inspection duties, entered tank A421f and collapsed due to its oxygen-deficient atmosphere. Robert Olsen and Allen Uglem, who had been working nearby, then entered the tank to effect a rescue. They too collapsed. Allen Uglem did not recover; Robert and Stanley Olsen did. This was a classic "confined space incident' where the oxygen levels weren't tested for a safe working environment.
Knowing the former director of engineering for Foss and having worked on structures built on enclosed steel barges, I have a high degree of puzzlement that any employee at Foss would ever think enter a confined space unprotected and unsupported like that and without using a detector before entering. That's just against basic training and certainly against all protocols. You just don't do that.

It's also odd that it happened at 7:45 pm. Weird story.
 

boomer

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@Go Left

You'd be surprised at the dumb stuff Shipyard employees do, and any employees do for that matter in countless industries. - even after being trained. I've seen and heard about some real doozies.

Todd which is now Vigor, usually runs at least two shifts, and sometimes three shifts.

Todd Shipyard employees working on a Foss barge. This didn't happen at Foss. Happened just over 50 years ago. This incident was at one time and most likely still is one of the classic examples, used in classroom examples here in the PNW, for both Competent Person training as well as Confined Spaces Entry training. By law Confined Spaces Entry training and a Confined Space Entry permit is required for entry into confined spaces - but even trained people inexplicably do stupid stuff

The trial court declined to instruct the jury that violation of the regulation was negligence per se. Instead, jurors were instructed that violation of the regulation was merely evidence of negligence. Surprisingly - The jury found in favor of Todd Shipyards, and an appellate court affirmed. - Is what's really weird.

Fortunately compared to many states fatal confined spaces incidents in Washington State is below the national average. I'd suspect viable training and common sense, play a major role in that.

Bureau of Labor Statistics - confined spaces fatalities

Olsen v. Todd Shipyards Corp., 435 F. Supp. 568 (W.D. Wash. 1977)
 
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Steam Flyer

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Doesn't ruin my palate.

Wait a minute, you're one of those former smokers aren't you.

Yes. Yes it does.

And yes, yes I am.

I was trying to be more tactful, but you are entirely correct.

It may easily be true that smokers, while they don't realize just how diminished their senses are, still enjoy the wine experience very much; so that's good too.
 

boomer

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Allso nowen as the 'munchies'
Correct - of course there's a downside, smoked active marijuana significantly increased total daily caloric intake by as much as 40% by the volunteers, mostly due to between and after meal snacking. I can confirm the struggle with eating snacks between and after meals, is quite real. I can attest that if I don't monitor my intake, I've been able to add a pound and a half a day, or more. Moving my main office from our front entrance shop, to downstairs next to the kitchen, where I can whip a meal together, or feast on leftovers, hasn't been helpful for me keeping the weight off.
 
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boomer

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Yes and it doesn't have nicotine, but it does have a bunch of alkaloids that don't do your sensor cells any good.

Yeah, I'm a lot of fun at parties too.
Actually they do the opposite. Scientific demonstrations of the beneficial effects of non-psychoactive cannabinoids on the human body have increased the interest in foods containing hemp components such as alkaloids. Also of note, taste and scent are linked, and an enhanced ability to smell that slice of bacon is thought to make it taste better too. When it comes to an affinity for certain foods, say beef or pork over duck or quail, the brain is responsible for evaluating what we're eating and determining what tastes good and bad. When you smoke, cannabis activates several regions in the control center, including an area tied to the reward system, which makes eating foods we enjoy such as bacon, prime rib, rib steak, boneless rib or in broader cuisines such as Polish, German, Swedish, Greek, Mexican, Chinese,Thai, British or American cuisine extra pleasurable.
 
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Se7en

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The kind of person who intends to come back another time and take the rest of it.
Not in this case - they had the keys, could have driven it out of there at any point. It was also a week or so between when it happened and when we returned home. Not a unique car, but one of about 150 made (a lotus seven replica). Pretty hard to sell in Australia, and you'd really need to know what you were looking at to realise the value in parts.

Police suggested it might have been kids. Their view was that whoever did it spent a couple of days doing it, they were very thourough. Given they left bottles of spirits, and only took the best 8 or so bottles of wine, I really doubt it was kids.
 

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Ed Lada

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I was trying to be more tactful, but you are entirely correct.

It may easily be true that smokers, while they don't realize just how diminished their senses are, still enjoy the wine experience very much; so that's good too.
I have an extremely sensitive sense of smell and palate. When I quit smoking for 6 years many years ago, I was constantly assaulted with extremely offensive smells. Especially perfume, I don't know why some women seem to bathe in it. So smoking dulls my sense of smell enough so I don't get so nauseated with the many offensive odors out there. I hate going through the airport duty free shops that they make you walk through on your way to your gate. I don't a hint of a nice perfume but the smell of many varieties in the duty free shops is just overwhelming. It's painful to me actually. The same thing with the perfume counter in department stores which always seem to be located just inside the entrance. Ugh.

I can't tolerate the taste of raw onions, raw garlic, truffles, or similar strongly flavored foods. It just overwhelms my taste buds and I can't taste anything else. Sometimes when I order a burger at a restaurant they don't list raw onion in the description on the menu. Then this beautiful burger arrives with a thick slice of raw onion on the bun. I don't like to be a pain in the ass, so I just take the onion of and eat the burger. But in the brief time the onion sat on the bun, I can still taste it. Usually I tell them to leave the onion off whether it is listed on the menu or not. I do like some strong flavors. I love anchovies for example, most aged cheeses, and I love spicy food.

I do just fine tasting wine while smoking a cigarette.
 

Ed Lada

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Actually they do the opposite. Scientific demonstrations of the beneficial effects of non-psychoactive cannabinoids on the human body have increased the interest in foods containing hemp components such as alkaloids. Also of note, taste and scent are linked, and an enhanced ability to smell that slice of bacon is thought to make it taste better too. When it comes to an affinity for certain foods, say beef or pork over duck or quail, the brain is responsible for evaluating what we're eating and determining what tastes good and bad. When you smoke, cannabis activates several regions in the control center, including an area tied to the reward system, which makes eating foods we enjoy such as bacon, prime rib, rib steak, boneless rib or in broader cuisines such as Polish, German, Swedish, Greek, Mexican, Chinese,Thai, British or American cuisine extra pleasurable.
I agree with you but I haven't had the munchies in many years. I don't know why.
 

boomer

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I agree with you but I haven't had the munchies in many years. I don't know why.
I'm not a munchies type either, never have been. I did provide crew with finger food, and makings for ham and cheese sandwiches, making Ruben sandwichs, and making full meals on board, including the full American breakfast and their favorite beer.

At home I prefer real prepared whole foods. I do make some tasty salsas and black bean dips with corn chips for entertaining guests. Or if we put on a Seafood spread for guests, Oysters, baby smoked Oysters, steamed Manila and Littleneck Clams, Angels on Horseback (bacon wrapped scallops and shrimp, shrimp cocktail, deep fried shrimp and cod, barbecued salmon, and steamed lobster tails.

Pretty much the same when making anything from American to Mexican to Thai or Chinese fare - we put out a full spread.
 


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