My bold...boatcat65 said:Good discussion of the current science: https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-natural-or-manmade/
And here's the main reason I don't believe in man made global warming- didn't have many carbon emitters around for just about all of the last 400,000 years, yet this clear cycle persists. Right now we're warming- but my money is on a cooler future, not warmer, unfortunate since cooler will be a lot harder on the human race than warming up a bit:
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So if we have missed the window why are we spending so much time and money trying to stop it. Surely it is time to try and deal with what is coming.Good article, most of it was spot on.
"Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.
He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control."
We missed the window.
I am saying that we have missed the window to stop catastrophic change, but there are things we can do to prevent extinction of most life on earth. Like stop using coal.So if we have missed the window why are we spending so much time and money trying to stop it. Surely it is time to try and deal with what is coming.
or are you saying he was wrong and we can still do something about it?
You quoted Nick and his prediction. So are you saying he is wrong that it is all over and the tipping point was years ago and replacing it with your own experience.I am saying that we have missed the window to stop catastrophic change,
Would it have helped if I had put the woodfortrees in purple? Flashing? Dear boatcat65, that was sarcasm, not an actual request. You can save a lot of time and effort if you just do a search for NGS and his denier posts in PA. He had LOTS of colorful graphs and fonts. Lots. I mean, pages and pages.Roy Spencer - the Roy Spencer who is a member of the Heartland Group? The one funded by the fossil fuel industry? You are on a roll dude, I know there are a couple more you haven't drug up yet. Give us something from the woodfortrees site.
You aren't confused, you are just a sap. Here is a heads up - in PA (that horrible place where we are mean to posters) there have been a stream of posters who posted all of this crap for years, get shot down, wait and post it again. It didn't float then and doesn't now.
But don't let me stop you, do go on.
edit: just for shits and giggle try scrolling through this, I couldn't find any cute videos or coloring books but give it a go
If you had gone to the actual newspaper article, you would have read "up to 50 millions"... not 50 millions as your biases source claims.Ah yes.. the UNEP climate refugees.
50M by 2010, wasn't it?
No 'm saying you should educate yourself.You quoted Nick and his prediction. So are you saying he is wrong that it is all over and the tipping point was years ago and replacing it with your own experience.
As for living there for 19 years, so what. Climate is considered 30 years+ so are you talking local weather?
If you had gone to the actual newspaper article, you would have read "up to 50 millions"... not 50 millions as your biases source claims.
As for climate change moving people, that is a fact, I've read that even New Orleans a town in one of the richest nation of the world is struggling to recover from flooding due to stronger than usual hurricanes.
Dr Carl. Bwahahahahahaha. What about play school? Any climate change information from that children’s show? Mate read my link. It is not only a brilliant piss take, it is you the author is talking about.I did not have to click on the link to see all I needed for today about stupidity.
It's people like you that make it that way.
I was driving down to sailing a few days ago and heard Dr Karl on the ABC get asked about climate change denial. He fixed that question as effectively as I have heard him do anything. He said that the fact that human activity is rapidly changing Earth's climate was established in 1989, thirty years ago ... NEXT!
Thanks for the offer but I can already post graphs, memes and write in capitals, so don't see what you could teach me.No 'm saying you should educate yourself.
The last time I gave advice for money I charged $1500 a day.
For you, $1250. Interested? I could PM you a contract.
I've had the same house for 30 years. In the 90's I survived the summer heat without needing AC.We built the house to not need air conditioning, that worked for most of the first decade until the number of continuous days of high temperature started to string together and become unbearable. Air con installed.
Greta doesn't have a point. She has handlers that feed her the drivel that flows from her judgmental, pursed lips. The publicity stunts that her handlers create for her are to 'Raise awareness' of climate change. I guess they think there are people on this earth are not aware of the cult of climate change. The only thing that her handlers are raising is her public profile, thus inflating her appearance fee, the value of her book deal and the inevitable movie deal about Saint Greta. If you folks are happy to be lectured about 'science' from a 16 year high school dropout then knock yourselves out. Personally I just feel sorry for the poor exploited young thing. She should be enjoying her teenage years instead of being manipulated by adults with an agenda.Well, that is exactly Greta's point. Adults want to ignore the problem, so the kids have to show leadership and force them to take this seriously. If you need some sort of motivation to get on board, think of it this way: she wants your great grandchildren to be able to go sailing too.
So, to be blunt, this fucking thread is in your face because we adults have been ignoring the problem for so long. Get over it.
ohh yeah, fuck this thread and that butt ugly Asperger Swede back to PA.I've had the same house for 30 years. In the 90's I survived the summer heat without needing AC.
I left the country for 18 years and upon my return to my house in 2016 the first thing I did was install AC throughout the house..
I could blame climate change but the real reasons are different.
- 16 years living in Sweden has made me weak about handling heat
- much older and not willing to put up with the heat
- My partner was pregnant
- My partner is not from Aus
I accept the science of climate change, but there is no need to use piss weak examples to try to prove a point. You are just growing soft.