Gunlickers - are you proud of this?

jocal505

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I'm talking about possession and you're talking about public use. Let's talk about the same thing: prohibited possession.

I have never heard of prohibiting possession of a previously-legal car and you are an anonymous clown who can't cite what you claimed happened. It didn't, any more than prohibition of possession of previously-legal cars.
lost in the weeds, and leading others >

to the junk yard of cars and farm vehicles

 

Pertinacious Tom

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1. My reasonable proposal doesn’t relay on a “claim” of a BCG being passed. The app would record the transaction and the buyer and seller’s details.  That’s the whole point of a BCG, it can’t account for intent. If the drug dealer has no criminal history, he would have been able to buy that shiny gun in a gun store and not rely on the AMERICAN in the parking lot. 
Does the AMERICAN goes to jail if a gun serial number they are recorded as buying shows up at a crime scene without a sale transaction? Are they still legally responsible for the weapon?
Most of our "mass" shootings seem to be byproducts of our stupid drug war and they often take the form of drive-by's using stolen cars.

Should the rightful owners of those cars be held accountable for what a criminal did with the cars?

 

dylan winter

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Most of our "mass" shootings seem to be byproducts of our stupid drug war and they often take the form of drive-by's using stolen cars.

Should the rightful owners of those cars be held accountable for what a criminal did with the cars?
surely this is crackers as an argumwnt to justify too many guns in Merca

 
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3to1

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Most of our "mass" shootings seem to be byproducts of our stupid drug war and they often take the form of drive-by's using stolen cars.

Should the rightful owners of those cars be held accountable for what a criminal did with the cars?
bullshit, sounds more like gang activity turf wars to me, dogballs. pathetic attempt at deflection, btw.

national mental health crisis + easy access to guns = 'mass shooting', that's not my definition, that's society's, and rightfully so. no relation to fkg drugs and drive-bys, innit.

sit your persistent ass down already, the facts of the matter put you at a virtually universal disadvantage. what's fkg absurd, is you persist.

 
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Pertinacious Tom

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Most of our "mass" shootings seem to be byproducts of our stupid drug war and they often take the form of drive-by's using stolen cars.

Should the rightful owners of those cars be held accountable for what a criminal did with the cars?
surely this is crackers as an argumwnt to justify too many guns in Merca
I'm just hopeful that we start treating guns like cars. If the rightful owner of stolen guns should be held responsible for what thieves did after stealing his guns, why shouldn't the rightful owner of a stolen car be responsible for what thieves did after stealing his car?

 

dylan winter

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I'm just hopeful that we start treating guns like cars. If the rightful owner of stolen guns should be held responsible for what thieves did after stealing his guns, why shouldn't the rightful owner of a stolen car be responsible for what thieves did after stealing his car?
surely this is a crackers argument

guns and cars are different things

here is a man skating on thin ice

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Pertinacious Tom

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So Tom, how do we stop people shooting other people?
The last time we dramatically reduced prohibition-related violence, it was by UNDOING SOMETHING. It could work again.

But that would involve admitting that government regulations have been a mistake and also admitting that the violence happens largely in places with strict gun control and among demographics with low gun ownership. This is all very inconvenient for those who want to use gun control to punish people who don't vote TeamD, so facts are ignored and the "mass" shootings are not closely examined by anyone but me. No T's and P's for the vast majority of them, including the two I posted this morning.

 

Steam Flyer

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I'm just hopeful that we start treating guns like cars. If the rightful owner of stolen guns should be held responsible for what thieves did after stealing his guns, why shouldn't the rightful owner of a stolen car be responsible for what thieves did after stealing his car?
Because cars are exactly like guns?

- DSK

 

Pertinacious Tom

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You suggested that cars should be treated exactly like guns.

Are they exactly like guns?

Should we treat coffee cups exactly like outboard motors?

- DSK
Why do you keep adding "exactly" to what I said? I can show you how to use the quote function to indicate what I really said if you need that assistance.

Either that or apply the same EXACT registration, licensing, training, taxes, insurance requirements and operational regulations and policing to guns and ammunition that we do to cars and gasoline.  I don't see any of those regulations "infringing" on the ownership of cars.
So you think "the people" means "the militia" huh? That's never been the case, but OK.

We've never closed a car registry and prohibited possession of previously-legal cars or you would have seen infringement on car ownership.
OK, so I might have edited that just a bit, but I was responding to Left Shift's suggestion that guns are exactly like cars. You didn't see a problem when he said it, did you?

 

Steam Flyer

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Why do you keep adding "exactly" to what I said? ...
I have never added words to a quote of yours, or anybody elses.

Maybe you and JZK and AGITC and Dog some of the other rabid righties can convene a meeting of the "Darn Steam Flyer Made A Fool Of Me Using My Own Words" Club.

...  ...

OK, so I might have edited that just a bit, but....    ...
But if you didn't choose such illogical, difficult-to-defend positions, you could probably be more honest.

- DSK

 

Left Shift

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Why do you keep adding "exactly" to what I said? I can show you how to use the quote function to indicate what I really said if you need that assistance.

OK, so I might have edited that just a bit, but I was responding to Left Shift's suggestion that guns are exactly like cars. You didn't see a problem when he said it, did you?
And I didn’t say guns are exactly like cars.  I said they should be treated the same way legally, as the both have the obvious potential to cause harm to the general public when carelessly or intentionally mis-used.  

 

Pertinacious Tom

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And I didn’t say guns are exactly like cars.  I said they should be treated the same way legally, as the both have the obvious potential to cause harm to the general public when carelessly or intentionally mis-used.  
Well, I can at least agree with you that it would be nice if we treated guns and cars the same. By which I mean, allowing possession of them instead of banning possession of previously-legal ones.

You suggested that cars should be treated exactly like guns.
No I did not. I've focused on treating them similarly in one regard: the whole allowing possession instead of launching another idiotic prohibition program aspect.

 

bpm57

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Sir John Knight was the sheriff, DeadEye.
Odd that you can't pull out any documentation of this. Really odd that a "sheriff" would be hit with the requirement of posting a good behavior bond.

It is even stranger yet that this "sheriff"'s counsel would argue in court that it was a personal affair.

When will you explain your random accusation of "disliking landed protestants"?

 


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