halyards reccs?

[Parma]

A couple of weeks ago the cover on a spinnaker halyard parted where it was held inside the clutch. I stitched a cover on at that point but then yesterday the cover and the core on the main halyard parted at a turning block. Neither event occurred in very strong winds

Time for new halyards I guess.

My feeling is that I want very low or no stretch spinnaker halyards (code 0 on a furler which needs to remain tight to operate properly) but could tolerate some stretch on the main and jib halyards.

What are the latest recommendations anybody might have in product? 33’ 10,000 pound RC. If you have put new halyards on your boat recently please let me know what you decided upon and why. I’m not certain but I think there is a huge cost difference between some of the possibilities.

 

[MPH]

Marlow D2 racing is pretty good. 

 

[tomtriad]

New England Ropes T900 for low stretch. I use 7/16" for a main halyard on a 650 sf flat head main on a 10,000 lb. tri. R&W Ropes in New Bedford, MA has great prices on remnants and odd lots, and will splice to your spec. They are quite knowledgable - ask them what they have and what they recommend. https://rwrope.com/.

Suggest you stich some extra sacrificial cover onto your halyards at high wear areas - you can replace it when it chafes.

 

[Grande Mastere Dreade]

New England Ropes T900 for low stretch. I use 7/16" for a main halyard on a 650 sf flat head main on a 10,000 lb. tri. R&W Ropes in New Bedford, MA has great prices on remnants and odd lots, and will splice to your spec. They are quite knowledgable - ask them what they have and what they recommend.https://rwrope.com/. 

Suggest you stich some extra sacrificial cover onto your halyards at high wear areas - you can replace it when it chafes.

thanks for that..

 

[mustang__1]

Anything with a dynema core should be good enough for your purposes. NER EnduraBraid should be sufficient for you. Good relatively hard wearing cover that isn't too stiff to cause assholes, good core. Their "euro" braid cover is a little prettier but feels ostensibly the same as the flecked cover. 

 

[Passport111]

I responded to your other thread but I've been really liking Yale Crystaline for halyards.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

I’ve been using Samson Warpspeed in two different boats, ergo for years, and have been pleased. Both WS I and II. 

 

[mustang__1]

I’ve been using Samson Warpspeed in two different boats, ergo for years, and have been pleased. Both WS I and II. 

always seemed like a really kinky line for me. I don't know about II, but 1 could get a mf'er. had it for kite sheets and a main halyard (2:1, 1/4") and it was about as evil as any line i've ever dealt with... 

 

[mustang__1]

I responded to your other thread but I've been really liking Yale Crystaline for halyards.

vectran is.... not something i would recommend. If you want cordage that is low stretch, doesn't like curves, sun, abrasion, or salt - why not just go for broke and get a PBO cored line?

 

[MPH]

absolutely no reason to go with vectran anymore. Heat set SK78 and 99's are pretty much better in almost every single way. 

 

[Passport111]

I won't argue that the newer dynemas are better.  What can I say, it was way cheaper.  It's still nice in that there is no stretch or creep.  I don't strip them so not too worried about UV.  Our season is 5 months of fresh water so I think I'll get good life and value out of the Crystaline for the large savings on acquisition.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

always seemed like a really kinky line for me. I don't know about II, but 1 could get a mf'er. had it for kite sheets and a main halyard (2:1, 1/4") and it was about as evil as any line i've ever dealt with... 

Never, ever had anything like that happen. One of the reasons I like the line. The vectran i thought would be good, twists up like you described. Marlow does that shit too. 

I flake (fake?), not coil, line, FWIW

 

[mustang__1]

Never, ever had anything like that happen. One of the reasons I like the line. The vectran i thought would be good, twists up like you described. Marlow does that shit too. 

I flake (fake?), not coil, line, FWIW

if warspeed isn't flaked out it'll snarl like a bastard in my experience, at least the old weave (haven't tried II). 

 

[daffy]

Never, ever had anything like that happen. One of the reasons I like the line. The vectran i thought would be good, twists up like you described. Marlow does that shit too. 

I flake (fake?), not coil, line, FWIW

+1

 

[vdm]

I’ve been using Samson Warpspeed in two different boats, ergo for years, and have been pleased. Both WS I and II. 

The newer Warpspeed is very slippery. We had to abandon some new jib sheets, took a couple extra wraps on the winch.

 

[Alex W]

The newer Warpspeed is very slippery. We had to abandon some new jib sheets, took a couple extra wraps on the winch.

Hmm, this doesn't match my experience with Warpspeed II.  It is working pretty well for us as jib sheets, and our primary winches don't have the most aggressive drum finish.  One of our halyards is also Warpspeed II, but it is our least used halyard (starboard wing halyard).

There is line that grabs better (like Samson Trophy Braid), but I don't think there is a huge difference between the dyneema core lines, most seem to use similar 24 braid covers.

It could be batch to batch variation?