Help with Mackay 470 rigging

[WCB]

GNV, 6 h from US sailing center in MIA

That's why I asked...I know some coaches in Floria but not near there. Too bad, a little further North and I could help. I'll be near Savanah next week. I had a Vanguard 470 and I've built and re-rigged a bunch of 505s. Those types of puzzles are fun.

 

[wisniok]

There are top Tampa / St Pete 470 teams – this will mean some top sailors and coaches. 470 events happen around there too – not saying you'd join the racing, but you might head there to learn for example to get a current racing sailor to give you a day of rigging and coaching.

And it's a dream spot to sail in.

Any specifics? Names, contacts, marinas, sail clubs names?

 

[wisniok]

That's why I asked...I know some coaches in Floria but not near there. Too bad, a little further North and I could help. I'll be near Savanah next week. I had a Vanguard 470 and I've built and re-rigged a bunch of 505s. Those types of puzzles are fun

That's why I asked...I know some coaches in Floria but not near there. Too bad, a little further North and I could help. I'll be near Savanah next week. I had a Vanguard 470 and I've built and re-rigged a bunch of 505s. Those types of puzzles are fun.

I am unable to travel right now but what are coaches names or contacts? Savannah is only 3.5 h away but I am busy till May

 

[martin 'hoff]

Any specifics? Names, contacts, marinas, sail clubs names?

Is there a google or bing thing in your internet?

If you search for recent 470 events, you can look at the results list. They list sailors' names and their 'home city' and 'home club'. Further use of internet will find those sailors on FB/Instagram; you might find club names, which can usually be linked to their phones and addresses...

 

[wisniok]

Is there a google or bing thing in your internet?

If you search for recent 470 events, you can look at the results list. They list sailors' names and their 'home city' and 'home club'. Further use of internet will find those sailors on FB/Instagram; you might find club names, which can usually be linked to their phones and addresses...

So basically you do not know how to do it, and you do not know anyone who can do it. Sarcastic comments do not help, and advice to search is redundant since me posting on this forum is nothing else but that. But thank you very much for your intent.

 

[wisniok]

That's why I asked...I know some coaches in Floria but not near there. Too bad, a little further North and I could help. I'll be near Savanah next week. I had a Vanguard 470 and I've built and re-rigged a bunch of 505s. Those types of puzzles are fun.

What are coaches names and contacts, I can travel, but I have to have someone who can help me first.

 

[WCB]

What are coaches names and contacts, I can travel, but I have to have someone who can help me first.

I haven't gone into the US Sailing Center in Miami myself but I kept meaning to. You may want to call the center and see if they'd welcome you in for a fact finding mission. You likely would find 2-4 other Mackay 470s there and while they aren't all rigged alike, you'd get a feel for the main components. Bring yours along and you not only could you set it up there to match, but you would likely get somebody to stop in and take a look for you.

I can reach out to my friends. One is in the St. Pete area and he comes here and coaches for us this time of year but we have so much snow he may be delayed. The other coached for us last year and he's a college coach there, I forget which school, and I can try to get him involved. Now that I think about it, another old 505 friend is a little further North and I bet he could help. I'll reach out to them in case the US Sailing Center doesn't work. Sometimes a venue like that can be a little icy to non-Olympic hopefuls.

 

[wisniok]

I haven't gone into the US Sailing Center in Miami myself but I kept meaning to. You may want to call the center and see if they'd welcome you in for a fact finding mission. You likely would find 2-4 other Mackay 470s there and while they aren't all rigged alike, you'd get a feel for the main components. Bring yours along and you not only could you set it up there to match, but you would likely get somebody to stop in and take a look for you.

I can reach out to my friends. One is in the St. Pete area and he comes here and coaches for us this time of year but we have so much snow he may be delayed. The other coached for us last year and he's a college coach there, I forget which school, and I can try to get him involved. Now that I think about it, another old 505 friend is a little further North and I bet he could help. I'll reach out to them in case the US Sailing Center doesn't work. Sometimes a venue like that can be a little icy to non-Olympic hopefuls.

That is exactly that: me trying to get Jimmy Page to help me tune up my guitar 😂😂. I have already contacted Miami but teams are already gone and management there is not really responsive, therefore I am looking aroud forums like this one 🙂

 

[martin 'hoff]

I haven't gone into the US Sailing Center in Miami myself but I kept meaning to. You may want to call the center and see if they'd welcome you in for a fact finding mission. You likely would find 2-4 other Mackay 470s there and while they aren't all rigged alike,

USSC Miami is pretty open door, you can wander about anytime. I don't know if there's any 470 teams based there right now, and even if they are based in Miami, they aren't there all the time. So going there at a random time... who knows if you'll bump into the right people!

I'd honestly google up who's been racing (as I mentioned above) and I'd contact anyone who's not in Palma now .

(People contact me randomly to ask about the boats I sail, and I've done the same to several sailors on niche boats, and learned a ton, made some friends – so there's that.)

 

[Schnappi]

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Step 1. Wash that thing.

Cool boat. Have fun with it.

 

[WCB]

That is exactly that: me trying to get Jimmy Page to help me tune up my guitar 😂😂. I have already contacted Miami but teams are already gone and management there is not really responsive, therefore I am looking aroud forums like this one 🙂

I'm not surprised about the management. That's not their forte'. I think your best bet is to stop in sometime. Walk in off the street and hope to find a 470 or two there, it's likely that they're there.

In the meantime if you want, you could work through this forum. With the mast up, take a slow and close up video and let's start to help you assemble the boat. Post the videos to Youtube and share the link here.

 

[Major Tom]

Mackay and Zieglemeyer are the 2 dominant 470 builders, used by almost every Olympic sailor over the past few 5 ring cycles. If you can find a past Olympian or squad member then you will probably get all the relevant information you are looking for.

 

[longy]

OK, you've bought an old Olympic level boat. It's got adjustments for everything. However, to start with, most of those controls can be set & forget for a long time. The McKay rigging guide posted above gets you started - identify a control, follow the strings, see what the other end does. LABEL stuff!! Start by ignoring all the spin stuff - you're not ready for that yet. Identify main & jib halyards & how they operate. Main halyard will hoist & lock off somehow. Further luff tension is via cunningham tackle. Mainsail gets the foot bolt rope fed into boom & stretched aft - further tension is via outhaul tackle
Jib gets hoisted on jib halyard, boat end of jib halyard connects to some sort of tackle to allow adjustment. Tack of jib is controlled by jib cunningham tackle at tack of jib

These drawing may help:

https://www.470.org/uploaded_files/GER470NCA%20-%20Rigging%20Guide.pdf_567_en.pdf

As this boat is an Olympic class boat, there are constant changes to rigging details, but basics remain even tho method may change.
Try to hoist sails in no wind & figure out controls/halyards.
Start by sailing with just main & jib, no spi, no trapeze
https://www.470.org/uploaded_files/northsails.com-470 Speed Guide By Sîme Fantela.pdf_1204_en.pdf
Has good basic tips to get you in the right form

 

[bait]

Did you ever get the info you were looking for on the 470?

while a bit dated your boat has many current attributes. Overall the boats are not nearly as complicated as one might think. They have the basic controls as most racing boats, but they can be adjusted by the crews in their racing position from either side. so this makes interesting routing of control lines.

any updated photos after it was all cleaned up. Do you have a sail number or hull number associated with it?