cajunkiwi
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Looking for advise on buying a Henderson 30 or other possible contender.
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Henderson 30?
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LakeBoy
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Contenders and Henderson 30s are both nice but pretty different. Do you want to sail solo or with friends?
eerie sailor
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I still like my Hendo a lot. Had it for eleven seasons and still having fun. You can PM me if you have any questions.
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ExOmo
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Fishingmickey
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sailordude69
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I don't know if it's still available, but there was one for sail called Bad Kitty in Ottawa. There is two in Sarnia as well, you should reach out to the Doyle Boston loft there and ask some questions.
eerie sailor
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Hey KIWI,
Got your PM and PM from a few others, so I figured I'd post here. The answer to your question on how the boats are holding up follows. These boats are holding up amazingly well. I have put over 15000 NM on the boat in the last 10 years with no major problems to report. The only ongoing issue I have had is with the rudder bearings. It appears to me that the rudder bearings were not quite up to the job initially. The problem is that the races are made of gelcoated fiberglass. Over time you wear through the gelcoat and into the fiberglass wth the balls in the race and eventually get mechanical binding. About every three years I have had to do some work on the races. I have used West System epoxy with graphite additive to do the repairs. I recently have switched from the graphite filler to 404, High density adhesive for a filler. This is working great and I think with the hardness of this product I might have come up with a much longer term fix. Other than the bearing issue there is no major issues. We don't even have much spider web cracking of gelcoat. It is pretty amazing.
You also wanted to know about the ability to pick up the keel coming in and out of the marina. WE do this every time we sail. We pick up the keel 4' and secure it with the clam shells that come with the boat every time we return to the marina. The boat CANNOT be sailed with the keel up and should only be lifted in fairly calm (less than 1') waves. Until the clam shell clamps are in place the keel will dance around in waves. Most of the boats came with an electric hoist. It must be rigged every time you lift the keel. It takes about 5 minutes for us to rig the keel lifting gear. CAUTION!! We replace our keel lifting cable annually.
If you plan to do road trips with the boat it trailers great. Again there is two versions out there. Some of the boats have an extra set of clam shells and can pull the keel up 6' and this makes the boat ramp launchable. This is what we have. The mast can be raised and lowered without assistance if desired. It isn;t bad lowering the mast with four people, but it is tough raising it. We have added a portable gin pole that we carry with us and we can move around to various places and be self sufficent. The boat single point lifts well. It does come up nose heavy so you will need a strap from the lifting straps to the bow.
Got your PM and PM from a few others, so I figured I'd post here. The answer to your question on how the boats are holding up follows. These boats are holding up amazingly well. I have put over 15000 NM on the boat in the last 10 years with no major problems to report. The only ongoing issue I have had is with the rudder bearings. It appears to me that the rudder bearings were not quite up to the job initially. The problem is that the races are made of gelcoated fiberglass. Over time you wear through the gelcoat and into the fiberglass wth the balls in the race and eventually get mechanical binding. About every three years I have had to do some work on the races. I have used West System epoxy with graphite additive to do the repairs. I recently have switched from the graphite filler to 404, High density adhesive for a filler. This is working great and I think with the hardness of this product I might have come up with a much longer term fix. Other than the bearing issue there is no major issues. We don't even have much spider web cracking of gelcoat. It is pretty amazing.
You also wanted to know about the ability to pick up the keel coming in and out of the marina. WE do this every time we sail. We pick up the keel 4' and secure it with the clam shells that come with the boat every time we return to the marina. The boat CANNOT be sailed with the keel up and should only be lifted in fairly calm (less than 1') waves. Until the clam shell clamps are in place the keel will dance around in waves. Most of the boats came with an electric hoist. It must be rigged every time you lift the keel. It takes about 5 minutes for us to rig the keel lifting gear. CAUTION!! We replace our keel lifting cable annually.
If you plan to do road trips with the boat it trailers great. Again there is two versions out there. Some of the boats have an extra set of clam shells and can pull the keel up 6' and this makes the boat ramp launchable. This is what we have. The mast can be raised and lowered without assistance if desired. It isn;t bad lowering the mast with four people, but it is tough raising it. We have added a portable gin pole that we carry with us and we can move around to various places and be self sufficent. The boat single point lifts well. It does come up nose heavy so you will need a strap from the lifting straps to the bow.
eerie sailor
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The Hendo does like rail meat but can be sailed well with normal crew sizes. I have sailed and done well against fully crewed boats in less than 10 Kts with three people. I have sailed in around the buoy races with winds in the high teens with 5 and done well but it is a challenge. We did a CHI/MAC last year with a crew of five. We went upwind for twenty hours with winds around twenty kts. We hung with the competition during this time though we were pretty happy when the wind eased. But in general we sail with seven or eight people. None of our crew are 200 #ers. With a seven person crew, upwind we carry a #1 till about 13 KTS. With a nine person crew we carry it to abot 15 kts. We carry a #3 with a seven person crew till about 20 kts, and a #4 till about 25. Over 25 kts of air upwind and the main is reefed. The boat doesn't sail that well with a reefed main. Above 30 kts at times we have sailed without a main. We just haven't figured out a good setup yet for these windspeeds.
Runners: PITA, but they are a gas pedal for the boat
Downwind..........
:lol:
Runners: PITA, but they are a gas pedal for the boat
Downwind..........
:lol: Ryley said:
eerie sailor
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Here's a couple of things you can look at.
OWNERS MANUAL Henderson 30.pdf
Polars from the designer. They are a bit different than US sailing polars. US sailing has you sailing a bit lower downwind.
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OWNERS MANUAL Henderson 30.pdf
Polars from the designer. They are a bit different than US sailing polars. US sailing has you sailing a bit lower downwind.
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Juan Mauri
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I regret selling mine. We use to race with 7 or 8 onboard and felt pretty competitive. Runners "a must" for upwind performance. Going downwind a fun, fast boat. As soon as I can sell my current boat I will looking forward to buy a Hendo again.
viperpuppy
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I trim main on one. They are great. We do well with 7-8 crew. I dont know where you would put 11 bodies.
eerie sailor
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Kiwi man,
Here is a pic of the Henderson on the trailer. Pretty nice package to tow around.
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Here's a line drawing.
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Here is a pic of the Henderson on the trailer. Pretty nice package to tow around.
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Here's a line drawing.
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eerie sailor
Super Anarchist
Kiwi man,
Here is a pic of the Henderson on the trailer. Pretty nice package to tow around.
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Here's a line drawing.
/monthly_08_2011/post-161-023154900%201312884063_thumb.jpg
Here is a pic of the Henderson on the trailer. Pretty nice package to tow around.
/monthly_08_2011/post-161-026316000%201312883968_thumb.jpg
Here's a line drawing.
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eerie sailor
Super Anarchist
eerie sailor
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KeithMagnussen
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I have been racing on them in Southern California for years.
Need a lot of crew.
Have Runners
Wet offshore
Sort of outdated design (crush them with the Tiger)
Buddy of mine is selling his right now. They took it in the Cabo race and have done really well around Southern California. Super fun boats with the right crew but it takes people knowing what they are doing, plus a bunch of people to hold the boats down.
Need a lot of crew.
Have Runners
Wet offshore
Sort of outdated design (crush them with the Tiger)
Buddy of mine is selling his right now. They took it in the Cabo race and have done really well around Southern California. Super fun boats with the right crew but it takes people knowing what they are doing, plus a bunch of people to hold the boats down.
