Henderson 30?

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JD95 said:
Looking at the HENDERSON 30 at Dana Point. Any info on it. I’m planning to do pac cup in 2020. Is it a good boat?
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Don't have any info on the one in Dana Point, but the one up in Seattle did the 2012 Pac Cup...

Offshore in these boats would be fun but also exhausting. Talking with the crew and skipper if you were off watch you were bailing water and if you were on watch you were just trying to keep the boat ripping on its feet. These boats a just very wet boats, big hole in the bow for the sprit and the v-hatch (which make stepping the mast super easy) allow for alot of water ingress. Also with newer stability requirements the boat might not qualify for doing the race without some mods. Our hendo was officially measured in ORR, IRC and ORC and when looking at some of the offshore stability index requirements our boat falls just under them.

As far as good boats, I think most owners on this forum will agree they are great boats. A pre 2000's sport boat that is still able to compete with all the new ones on the market. Only thing that I would say negative about the boat is the runners, they are both a blessing and can be a curse. As I have mentioned above the stuff we have done to this boat and the fact that we haven't had any big breakages really is a testament to the boat itself.

 
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Christian said:
Well if you sail sideways like that everything is pretty unloaded so you shouldn't be surprised  :lol:
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You're right, what is missing in the picture was the S shaped forestay that was wiggling in the wind and the 2 foot mast pumping when she came back up on the feet (also the windward runner was hooked on the otherside of the boom, probably one of our worst gybes of the regatta besides the previous one to this where we whipped out with the kite up and pulled the bounty of the bay out of the water with it...). I was thinking the whole time, this is it this is when the mast goes pop, but nope just turned back to weather got the jib down, corrected the runner and shot back into the harbor doing 10 kts, like nothing happened.... Everyone at the party that night was like, "How did you guys not drop the rig?" :eek:

 
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Superhawkathan said:
Don't have any info on the one in Dana Point, but the one up in Seattle did the 2012 Pac Cup...

Offshore in these boats would be fun but also exhausting. Talking with the crew and skipper if you were off watch you were bailing water and if you were on watch you were just trying to keep the boat ripping on its feet. These boats a just very wet boats, big hole in the bow for the sprit and the v-hatch (which make stepping the mast super easy) allow for alot of water ingress. Also with newer stability requirements the boat might not qualify for doing the race without some mods. Our hendo was officially measured in ORR, IRC and ORC and when looking at some of the offshore stability index requirements our boat falls just under them.

As far as good boats, I think most owners on this forum will agree they are great boats. A pre 2000's sport boat that is still able to compete with all the new ones on the market. Only thing that I would say negative about the boat is the runners, they are both a blessing and can be a curse. As I have mentioned above the stuff we have done to this boat and the fact that we haven't had any big breakages really is a testament to the boat itself.
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Thank you for responding. What mods would it take to qualify?  Thoughts?

 
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JD95 said:
Thank you for responding. What mods would it take to qualify?  Thoughts?
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The mods would be minimal. In most cases careful measurements taken when getting the boat measured will get you over 105 which a lot of races use for the stability index requirement.  My boat has a stability index of 107. PM me with a email address and I will send you copies of my ORR certificate if you want it. Might even have an old IRC cert laying around,and MORC and a half dozen phrf fleets:)

 
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Regarding the boat.... I've done about 40 races of the 150-300 nm distance. The pole has a rubber gasket 6" inside the hull. Most guys keep it a little loose so it goes in an out easily. For a distance race, out in a tight spot, 1/4" gasket. Minimize the amount not ins and outs (leave it out as much as possible.) This works really well. We have leaks around the mast like others. I don't like to caulk things to tight because when we do a Mac race we like to get the boat apart quick and get it on the trailer for a 70kt ride home. We have had some success putting weather stripping on the hull where the companionway hatch sits on the hull. Helps a lot but not perfect. They can be wet boats.

 
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Superhawkathan said:
Well status update... after sailing the first Screwpile Lighthouse Challenge that I can remember with wind... well lost of wind (avg 15-25 kts), the adjustment we made to the bearings seems to be working. Free play is ever so minimal and the rudder didn't lock up with the kite up in the big breeze... only issue we seemed to have was really nothing to do with the bearings and everything with the runners. Generally we are pretty good and got a good system down, but seemed that every once and awhile during the regatta we would catch the runner and have a great wipe-out! I am really surprised we didn't drop the rig or break something during this weekend, only damage was a little 3 inch tear in the #3 at the foot. These boats I tell ya can take a beating and keep on ticking...

The picture below is from some of our shenanigans this last weekend!!!

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I've lived that picture a few times. Crank the runner a little tighter, ease the Vang a couple inches and have the stability technicians eat more pork chops!

 
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Kenny Dumas said:
Is the reef point just for looks?
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We have used it multiple times and even sailed with a #4 (basically a storm jib). The boat was pretty well balanced going upwind in 30 - 35 kts (granted still wasn't the most fun)... we don't reef often but in some distance races where there is going to be a big upwind slog in heavy breeze putting a reef on the main will make the boat a bit of a better ride and extend the life of the main a bit more than just flogging it to hell.

 
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eerie sailor said:
I've lived that picture a few times. Crank the runner a little tighter, ease the Vang a couple inches and have the stability technicians eat more pork chops!
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Eerie what you can't quite see is the windward runner got caught on the leeward side of the boom during the gybe.... so no cranking it on, no easing the main as the runner won't let it go out any more and the vang was off.... think the only solution was to have more pork chops at the crew dinner the night before!!! :rolleyes:

 
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Superhawkathan said:
Eerie what you can't quite see is the windward runner got caught on the leeward side of the boom during the gybe.... so no cranking it on, no easing the main as the runner won't let it go out any more and the vang was off.... think the only solution was to have more pork chops at the crew dinner the night before!!! :rolleyes:
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I see. The runner caught behind the boom on a heavy air gybe is one of the more memorable manuvers to perform. Been there done that one a few times also.

 
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On SF Bay we got a couple reef points and use the no 4 on a regular basis.  Our main heavy air main was designed for PHRF.  So the roach was cut down even.  At about 20 to 25+ we go to the 4.    Bummer about the runners.  We have had that happen a few times.

 
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...we just used  more bodies...... nose-dive-2 - Copy.jpg

 
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trimfast said:
That's a good one, post the video.
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I'm still working on how to edit the 360 video. You have to edit it within the camera app then export the video to another program, problem is when you hit save it doesn't do anything. Hoping to have something together in a couple weeks... it will most likely be first posted on our FB page as I am limited in file size here.

Cheers!

 
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