Henderson 30?

Thanks for the video. Now I want to go sailing!!
How did you guys do through the "POLAR VORTEX"?

Side note saw a Hendo registered for CRW, looks to be sail number 130. Do we know who this could be? We thought about taking the Bus down again, but we got an offer to crew a J88 so it will be fun to race 1D; however it would have been great to race against another H30 just to get some speed comparison data!

 

eerie sailor

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Haven't run across the 130 guys before. We are barely surrviving the polar vortex. There has been no winter sailing this year:(. Will probably start ramping things up in late March here sailing wise.

 

ericrayl

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Mbowick did not buy the Hendo for sale in Seattle owned by your friend and mine, it's still available at what I consider a ridiculously good price.

 
Hey guys just wanted to show the updated bow pulpit. Custom job from White Water Marine in Michigan. I will let you all know how it works out, but I think in all it’s gona be a win!

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The Hendo does like rail meat but can be sailed well with normal crew sizes. I have sailed and done well against fully crewed boats in less than 10 Kts with three people. I have sailed in around the buoy races with winds in the high teens with 5 and done well but it is a challenge. We did a CHI/MAC last year with a crew of five. We went upwind for twenty hours with winds around twenty kts. We hung with the competition during this time though we were pretty happy when the wind eased. But in general we sail with seven or eight people. None of our crew are 200 #ers. With a seven person crew, upwind we carry a #1 till about 13 KTS. With a nine person crew we carry it to abot 15 kts. We carry a #3 with a seven person crew till about 20 kts, and a #4 till about 25. Over 25 kts of air upwind and the main is reefed. The boat doesn't sail that well with a reefed main. Above 30 kts at times we have sailed without a main. We just haven't figured out a good setup yet for these windspeeds.

Runners: PITA, but they are a gas pedal for the boat

Downwind..........
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What are your thoughts on these boats being a candidate for single or double handed great lakes overnight races? I am trying to find a boat to single/double hand in overnight races 2 or 3 times a year, then do a few buoy bashes in the summer and travel to some in the winter. That said I am focused on trying to find a lifting keel boat that can be launched without the lift(keep costs low pulling her in and out and for home storage during winter). The other caveat is I don't have a desire to be the last few boats crossing the finish line in the queen cup or other overnight races I enjoy doing. 

 

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What are your thoughts on these boats being a candidate for single or double handed great lakes overnight races? I am trying to find a boat to single/double hand in overnight races 2 or 3 times a year, then do a few buoy bashes in the summer and travel to some in the winter. That said I am focused on trying to find a lifting keel boat that can be launched without the lift(keep costs low pulling her in and out and for home storage during winter). The other caveat is I don't have a desire to be the last few boats crossing the finish line in the queen cup or other overnight races I enjoy doing. 
I think the hendo is a great boat but I don't think it's the right boat for shorthanded work unless your area is typically light air. If you want a lifting keel boat that can be shorthanded and won't leave you at the back of the pack (and sails pretty damn well with a full crew too ;)  ) I'd see if you can find a Columbia 30 or 30-2. No runners (unless you want them), a little less tender, and ergonomically works pretty well shorthanded. I've got an EV-100 AP that does a pretty good job of driving the boat with the chute up. It's got legs, but at around 1200 lbs heavier than the Hendo it's not going to be *as* fast, but still fun.

The one weakness it has, crewed or shorthanded, is that in light air and heavy chop the boat can get a little stuck. Driving in big waves takes some time to get down well, you're not going to pound through anything, but we've had a lot of fun with ours shorthanded, competing against Hendos and others.

Now some Hendo owners will come along and tell me how wrong I am :)

 

eerie sailor

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What are your thoughts on these boats being a candidate for single or double handed great lakes overnight races? I am trying to find a boat to single/double hand in overnight races 2 or 3 times a year, then do a few buoy bashes in the summer and travel to some in the winter. That said I am focused on trying to find a lifting keel boat that can be launched without the lift(keep costs low pulling her in and out and for home storage during winter). The other caveat is I don't have a desire to be the last few boats crossing the finish line in the queen cup or other overnight races I enjoy doing. 
All the sail controls are pretty spread out for singlehandedl. Doublehanded would still be challenging with the runners but doable. I've done solo deliveries( jib and motor) and doublehanded sails. Have raced  with three and did well when conditions were light. Have done Macs with five and done well. BUT, I think there is much better boat choices if your focus is shorthanded racing...

 

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Hey guys I have a thought question for fellow owners. Now that the boats are getting up there and age and we are all doing some sort of handicap racing with them has anyone thought about how they would go about adding some performance to keep up with modern designs?

 

eerie sailor

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Hey guys I have a thought question for fellow owners. Now that the boats are getting up there and age and we are all doing some sort of handicap racing with them has anyone thought about how they would go about adding some performance to keep up with modern designs?
Get rid of the all lead keel. Put a bit bigger lead bulb under your new composite strut, cut several hundred pounds off the total weight. Put a square top on. Give me a call when the mods are done so I can go for a ride.

 
Get rid of the all lead keel. Put a bit bigger lead bulb under your new composite strut, cut several hundred pounds off the total weight. Put a square top on. Give me a call when the mods are done so I can go for a ride.
I have said the same thing! Also pulling the V-berth out and the "aft bunks" and putting in some carbon stringers would really help the weight of the boat! Doing all that you would almost have a Melges 32 minus the PITA runners, the overlapper sails, and an extra foot!

 

gossmanl

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Get rid of the all lead keel. Put a bit bigger lead bulb under your new composite strut, cut several hundred pounds off the total weight. Put a square top on. Give me a call when the mods are done so I can go for a ride.
Have you played around with the idea of two sail reaching? number one and an inside set staysail? I agree the keel is the first issue that needs tweaked. I would go for pole length too but that is much easier for me to do since I have a non articulating pole.

 

gossmanl

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Why bother with retrofitting the Hendo when the ten year newer FT10 design already comes with a composite strut and ~170 lbs heavier lead bulb?
It may have that but its still slower then a Hendo in its current spec. I have never been a fan of the FT10 and its hard to beat the build quality of a soca boat. I have put my boat through some really harsh trips and its made it through with flying colors.

 


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