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Herschel Walker Watch
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Marty Gingras
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Poor brain-damaged guy being manipulated by MAGAts.
Mike G
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Words of wisdom...
Voyageur
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i hope he learned how to tie his shoes.
Sean
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This should be entertaining -
Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-GA) and challenger Herschel Walker (R) will officially meet for a televised debate in Georgia next month, just weeks before November’s midterm elections, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.
The announcement ended weeks of wrangling, taunting and name-calling by agreeing to a nationally watched showdown.
Warnock and Walker Finally Agree to Debate
September 13, 2022 at 10:49 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 16 CommentsSen. Raphael Warnock (D-GA) and challenger Herschel Walker (R) will officially meet for a televised debate in Georgia next month, just weeks before November’s midterm elections, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.
The announcement ended weeks of wrangling, taunting and name-calling by agreeing to a nationally watched showdown.
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Herschel Walker Tests the Importance of ‘Candidate Quality’
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if, in Georgia, Herschel Walker beats Raphael Warnock? That’s different. Purer.
It would probably mean that the 2022 climate was as hostile to Democratic candidates as Democrats initially feared it would be. And it would almost certainly say that party loyalty and ideological tribalism have rendered experience, character and competence all but obsolete — because Walker is about as ridiculous a Senate candidate as I can recall (and I recall both Christine O’Donnell and Todd Akin). Apart from the promise that Walker would vote with fellow Republicans, he brings little to the table.
Yes, Walker’s celebrity from his football days is of a kind and magnitude that Warnock can’t strictly match. But Warnock’s incumbency bridges any name-recognition gap.
The unbridgeable divide is between the two candidates’ credibility and coherence.
To read a deeply reported profile of Warnock by Shaila Dewan and Mike Baker that The Times published in January 2021 is to encounter a man with some minor messiness in his past, and with a history of blunt talk about racism in America that could be a political liability with some voters. But what comes across much more strongly is Warnock’s thoughtfulness and seriousness of purpose as he rose to the role of senior pastor at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, where the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. worshiped and preached.
Thoughtfulness isn’t one of Walker’s hallmarks. During an appearance on Fox News after the massacre of schoolchildren in Uvalde, Texas, he was asked where he stood on suggested policies to prevent such bloodshed. His response: “Cain killed Abel and that’s a problem that we have. What we need to do is look into how we can stop those things. You know, you talked about doing a disinformation — what about getting a department that can look at young men that’s looking at women that’s looking at their social media. What about doing that? Looking into things like that, and we can stop that that way.”
On the campaign trail, Walker took issue with the Green New Deal by saying: “Since we don’t control the air, our good air decided to float over to China’s bad air, so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then, now, we got to clean that back up.”
Eloquence can at times be overrated, less a reflection of intelligence than a separate skill and smoothness. But its polar opposite, embodied by Walker, is often a clue to the speaker’s cluelessness. Walker supplements his cluelessness with dishonesty. He has lied about having a background in law enforcement. He has lied about having a college degree. He began his campaign as the father of just one child whom voters and journalists knew about. Another three children came to light later.
When Mitch McConnell said in August that “candidate quality” could affect whether Republicans win control of the Senate, he was probably thinking of Oz. He was definitely thinking of Walker. If Walker ekes out a victory in Georgia in November, it will suggest how very little candidate quality matters anymore. And it will have implications far beyond the Peach State.
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if, in Georgia, Herschel Walker beats Raphael Warnock? That’s different. Purer.
It would probably mean that the 2022 climate was as hostile to Democratic candidates as Democrats initially feared it would be. And it would almost certainly say that party loyalty and ideological tribalism have rendered experience, character and competence all but obsolete — because Walker is about as ridiculous a Senate candidate as I can recall (and I recall both Christine O’Donnell and Todd Akin). Apart from the promise that Walker would vote with fellow Republicans, he brings little to the table.
Yes, Walker’s celebrity from his football days is of a kind and magnitude that Warnock can’t strictly match. But Warnock’s incumbency bridges any name-recognition gap.
The unbridgeable divide is between the two candidates’ credibility and coherence.
To read a deeply reported profile of Warnock by Shaila Dewan and Mike Baker that The Times published in January 2021 is to encounter a man with some minor messiness in his past, and with a history of blunt talk about racism in America that could be a political liability with some voters. But what comes across much more strongly is Warnock’s thoughtfulness and seriousness of purpose as he rose to the role of senior pastor at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, where the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. worshiped and preached.
Thoughtfulness isn’t one of Walker’s hallmarks. During an appearance on Fox News after the massacre of schoolchildren in Uvalde, Texas, he was asked where he stood on suggested policies to prevent such bloodshed. His response: “Cain killed Abel and that’s a problem that we have. What we need to do is look into how we can stop those things. You know, you talked about doing a disinformation — what about getting a department that can look at young men that’s looking at women that’s looking at their social media. What about doing that? Looking into things like that, and we can stop that that way.”
On the campaign trail, Walker took issue with the Green New Deal by saying: “Since we don’t control the air, our good air decided to float over to China’s bad air, so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then, now, we got to clean that back up.”
Eloquence can at times be overrated, less a reflection of intelligence than a separate skill and smoothness. But its polar opposite, embodied by Walker, is often a clue to the speaker’s cluelessness. Walker supplements his cluelessness with dishonesty. He has lied about having a background in law enforcement. He has lied about having a college degree. He began his campaign as the father of just one child whom voters and journalists knew about. Another three children came to light later.
When Mitch McConnell said in August that “candidate quality” could affect whether Republicans win control of the Senate, he was probably thinking of Oz. He was definitely thinking of Walker. If Walker ekes out a victory in Georgia in November, it will suggest how very little candidate quality matters anymore. And it will have implications far beyond the Peach State.
Being a close neighbor (Jax is sometimes called "Southern GA" and during the GA/FL football game, there was more red and black than orange and blue at work), it is painful to watch this unfold with some polls reporting Walker in the lead. I realize FL doesn't have a whole lot of room to talk about our ability to elect good senators though.
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Herschel Walker is trying a novel approach in his race against Sen. Raphael Warnock in Georgia: Don’t expect too much out of me, I’m just not that smart.
Yes, really!
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Herschel Walker's bizarre move to lower expectations | CNN Politics
Herschel Walker is trying a novel approach in his race against Sen. Raphael Warnock in Georgia: Don't expect too much out of me, I'm just not that smart.
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Mike G
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That just got him MORE R voters.Herschel Walker is trying a novel approach in his race against Sen. Raphael Warnock in Georgia: Don’t expect too much out of me, I’m just not that smart.
Yes, really!
Herschel Walker's bizarre move to lower expectations | CNN Politics
Herschel Walker is trying a novel approach in his race against Sen. Raphael Warnock in Georgia: Don't expect too much out of me, I'm just not that smart.
Fakenews
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I kind of smile at wily old dog politicians who pretend to be dumb. Then there’s Herschel. Ten points less of an IQ and he’d be living with his mom for the rest of his life.Herschel Walker is trying a novel approach in his race against Sen. Raphael Warnock in Georgia: Don’t expect too much out of me, I’m just not that smart.
Yes, really!
Herschel Walker's bizarre move to lower expectations | CNN Politics
Herschel Walker is trying a novel approach in his race against Sen. Raphael Warnock in Georgia: Don't expect too much out of me, I'm just not that smart.
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A harsh ad hitting Herschel Walker shows a way forward for Democrats
For many years, the politics of both abortion and guns have been guided by a fundamental reality: While Democrats had majority support for their positions, Republicans usually benefited more from the two issues at election time.
For Republican voters, both issues were more important. Social conservatives turned out to elect Republicans in hopes of gaining control of the Supreme Court and overturning abortion rights. Firearms owners were driven to elect Republicans to keep gun-grabbing liberals at bay.
Meanwhile, Democrats struggled to make them into motivating issues for their voters. But because of a confluence of factors — the overturning of Roe v. Wade, continuing horrific mass shootings — these issues may suddenly drive voting behavior on the Democratic side, both with the base and with Democratic-leaning independents.
A new ad campaign from Everytown for Gun Safety is testing a way touse the issues to tell a story about GOP radicalism. The ads will run in numerous Senate races. Here’s the one hitting Herschel Walker, the GOP nominee challenging Sen. Raphael G. Warnock (D-Ga.):
The ad — which will air in Atlanta markets and is backed by a $1 million buy — is an effort to connect with voters in a visceral, energizing way by linking abortion and guns around the shared theme of safety and security.
These issues may suddenly be more motivating for Democratic-aligned voters than in the past. Democrats will often privately lament that for years, they could not make voters believe the Supreme Court might strike down Roe, let alone get them to vote to prevent it.
Well, now that’s happened, and Democrats can accurately say that electing a sizable enough Democratic majority in Congress will mean getting abortion rights restored and codified into law.
Meanwhile, the court recently issued a major ruling striking down a New York state gun law, putting restrictions in every blue state into question. And other states are rushing to expand “open carry” and make it easier for people to take guns almost everywhere, with little or no licensing or training required.
Put that together with another year of horrific mass shootings — in Buffalo; in Uvalde, Tex.; in Highland Park, Ill.; and so many others — and gun violence is as salient as ever. And yes, the increase in crime that Republicans blame on liberals plays a role here, too: If you’re worried about the safety of yourself and your family, candidates who want to reduce gun proliferation have a case to make.
That these issues are suddenly more motivating on the Democratic side is clearly evident in what Republicans are doing.
On abortion, Republicans are frantically working to erase evidence of previous absolutist positions or otherwise contorting themselves to appear moderate on the issue. On guns, there’s a reason 15 Senate Republicans voted to pass a gun safety bill this summer: Mass shootings are scaring suburban voters, and the issue risks getting them to conclude that Republicans are unfit for the majority. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) candidly admitted this to reporters at the time.
For Democrats, the thinking behind linking these two issues is that, in a sense, both involve safety and security. And both highlight the extremism of today’s GOP in a very similar way.
Easily available guns have led not just to horrific mass shootings but also to a continuing epidemic of daily gun deaths and a climate of fear and violence hovering over regular Americans in all kinds of situations. And the fall of Roe means that women in many states are deprived of a health-care option in a way that can endanger their health and even lives.
“Voters are most concerned about one thing, and that’s the safety and security of their families and communities,” Charlie Kelly, senior vice president at Everytown, told us. On both issues, Kelly said, “Republican Senate candidates like Walker are basically putting people at risk.”
The other thing that links these issues is that they both motivate the Democratic base and also underscore the GOP’s disconnect from the political mainstream.
“They’re not acknowledging the public will on any of these issues,” Kelly said. “It’s a motivating tool,” he said, but also “a persuasive tool, one that will be extraordinarily compelling down the stretch.”
Message-testing polls the group shared with us suggest that reminding voters that Republican candidates support tightening restrictions on abortion and loosening them on guns pushes significant numbers of votes in Democrats’ direction.
Finally, both issues could hold especially powerful appeal to female voters. A new FiveThirtyEight analysis finds that women have moved toward Democrats since Roe’s demise; a look at recent midterm elections shows that Democrats tend to win when the gender gap is pronounced.
Dealing with these issues in tandem might help. If this sort of messaging works, it could suggest a way to maximize the advantages for Democrats created by the new political reality on both.
For many years, the politics of both abortion and guns have been guided by a fundamental reality: While Democrats had majority support for their positions, Republicans usually benefited more from the two issues at election time.
For Republican voters, both issues were more important. Social conservatives turned out to elect Republicans in hopes of gaining control of the Supreme Court and overturning abortion rights. Firearms owners were driven to elect Republicans to keep gun-grabbing liberals at bay.
Meanwhile, Democrats struggled to make them into motivating issues for their voters. But because of a confluence of factors — the overturning of Roe v. Wade, continuing horrific mass shootings — these issues may suddenly drive voting behavior on the Democratic side, both with the base and with Democratic-leaning independents.
A new ad campaign from Everytown for Gun Safety is testing a way touse the issues to tell a story about GOP radicalism. The ads will run in numerous Senate races. Here’s the one hitting Herschel Walker, the GOP nominee challenging Sen. Raphael G. Warnock (D-Ga.):
The ad — which will air in Atlanta markets and is backed by a $1 million buy — is an effort to connect with voters in a visceral, energizing way by linking abortion and guns around the shared theme of safety and security.
These issues may suddenly be more motivating for Democratic-aligned voters than in the past. Democrats will often privately lament that for years, they could not make voters believe the Supreme Court might strike down Roe, let alone get them to vote to prevent it.
Well, now that’s happened, and Democrats can accurately say that electing a sizable enough Democratic majority in Congress will mean getting abortion rights restored and codified into law.
Meanwhile, the court recently issued a major ruling striking down a New York state gun law, putting restrictions in every blue state into question. And other states are rushing to expand “open carry” and make it easier for people to take guns almost everywhere, with little or no licensing or training required.
Put that together with another year of horrific mass shootings — in Buffalo; in Uvalde, Tex.; in Highland Park, Ill.; and so many others — and gun violence is as salient as ever. And yes, the increase in crime that Republicans blame on liberals plays a role here, too: If you’re worried about the safety of yourself and your family, candidates who want to reduce gun proliferation have a case to make.
That these issues are suddenly more motivating on the Democratic side is clearly evident in what Republicans are doing.
On abortion, Republicans are frantically working to erase evidence of previous absolutist positions or otherwise contorting themselves to appear moderate on the issue. On guns, there’s a reason 15 Senate Republicans voted to pass a gun safety bill this summer: Mass shootings are scaring suburban voters, and the issue risks getting them to conclude that Republicans are unfit for the majority. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) candidly admitted this to reporters at the time.
For Democrats, the thinking behind linking these two issues is that, in a sense, both involve safety and security. And both highlight the extremism of today’s GOP in a very similar way.
Easily available guns have led not just to horrific mass shootings but also to a continuing epidemic of daily gun deaths and a climate of fear and violence hovering over regular Americans in all kinds of situations. And the fall of Roe means that women in many states are deprived of a health-care option in a way that can endanger their health and even lives.
“Voters are most concerned about one thing, and that’s the safety and security of their families and communities,” Charlie Kelly, senior vice president at Everytown, told us. On both issues, Kelly said, “Republican Senate candidates like Walker are basically putting people at risk.”
The other thing that links these issues is that they both motivate the Democratic base and also underscore the GOP’s disconnect from the political mainstream.
“They’re not acknowledging the public will on any of these issues,” Kelly said. “It’s a motivating tool,” he said, but also “a persuasive tool, one that will be extraordinarily compelling down the stretch.”
Message-testing polls the group shared with us suggest that reminding voters that Republican candidates support tightening restrictions on abortion and loosening them on guns pushes significant numbers of votes in Democrats’ direction.
Finally, both issues could hold especially powerful appeal to female voters. A new FiveThirtyEight analysis finds that women have moved toward Democrats since Roe’s demise; a look at recent midterm elections shows that Democrats tend to win when the gender gap is pronounced.
Dealing with these issues in tandem might help. If this sort of messaging works, it could suggest a way to maximize the advantages for Democrats created by the new political reality on both.
