the discussion is out of wedlock children (multiple), domestic abuse AND abortion. Please keep up.
Herschel Walker Watch
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Walker’s team knew of an abortion allegation months before it surfaced
His team was aware and had time to prepare. They just hoped it wouldn’t come out before the election.
www.politico.com
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Matt Lewis: GOP to America: Family Values Are for Suckers
HISTORY REPEATING
Herschel Walker is the latest to prove that when it comes to conservatives, celebrity and image now ranks above all else.
Matt Lewis
Senior Columnist
Updated Oct. 04, 2022 8:49PM ET / Published Oct. 04, 2022 8:24PM ET
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Let’s be honest. Character doesn’t matter. Today’s Christian conservatives and the Republican Party have concluded that we are in a war with the left. And in wars, we do not have any room for niceties like policing our own side—or being concerned with silly things like character. Warriors have to do gruesome and immoral things sometimes.
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But here’s the thing: Raphael Warnock cannot undermine the integrity of Christian conservatives or the Republican Party. He cannot tarnish our reputation or cause us to sacrifice our values for the sake of winning. Herschel Walker already has. And by sticking with him, many ostensibly anti-abortion rights groups and the Republican Party, including the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC), are saying that there is literally nothing a Republican can do that would forfeit their support.
The fact that Walker fathered several illegitimate children and allegedly paid for an abortion is not a crime, but it certainly doesn’t qualify him to be a U.S. senator (not that he has any other credentials). Is this what we want from the party of Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan? Apparently so.
Actions have consequences, and by allowing Trump to hijack the Republican Party, conservatives sent a message loud and clear that values don’t matter. What matters are things like celebrity, image, and a reputation for fighting. Herschel Walker being a 2022 Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate is yet more proof that Idiocracy was a documentary. And the fact that Christian conservative groups and the Republican Party are immediately rallying to support him demonstrates that the conservative movement is decadent and depraved.
So go ahead, conservative Republican politicians. Grab women by their privates. Pay for abortions. It doesn’t matter what you do. Character doesn’t count. Family values are for suckers.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/herschel-walker-is-proof-character-doesnt-count-in-todays-gop?ref=home
This is all that matters and Walker might just be able to pull it off in GA no matter what comes out about his past or what he says in the present. Crazy world we live in.
He claims to be a Christian, so he is forgiven, no matter what he has done, or will do. Christianity, the perfect religion for people who have no morals.
billy backstay
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The other Herschel Walker story
Judd LegumOn Monday evening, the Daily Beast reported that Herschel Walker, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Georgia, paid for a woman he was dating to get an abortion in 2009. The story was significant because Walker said he wants to completely ban abortion, with no exceptions.
The woman, who spoke to the Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity, said Walker "urged her to get an abortion." She provided the outlet with a $575 receipt for the abortion, a "get well" card allegedly signed by Walker, and an image of a $700 check she said Walker included in the card to reimburse her for the procedure.
Walker was interviewed by Fox News' Sean Hannity later on Monday to respond to the allegation. He called it "a flat-out lie" but was circumspect about key aspects of the story. Walker said that he "never asked anyone to get an abortion" and "never paid for an abortion." But he did not deny that he signed the "get well" card, which was published by the Daily Beast. He also did not deny that he sent the woman $700. "I send money to a lot of people, and that's what's so funny," Walker said. "I give money to people all the time, because I'm always helping people because I believe in being generous." Hannity quickly pivoted to other subjects, but at no point during the discussion did Walker deny that a woman he was dating obtained an abortion.
In a statement, Walker said he would file a defamation lawsuit against the Daily Beast on Tuesday morning. As of Tuesday evening, no lawsuit had been filed. A lawsuit would require Walker to specify what, exactly, in the Daily Beast story was defamatory.
The report prompted a strong reaction from Christian Walker, one of Herschel Walker's children. Walker has four children but had only acknowledged Christian prior to launching his campaign. Christian said he did not believe his father's denial of the Daily Beast story. In a tweet, Christian also said that his father threatened to kill him and his mother, Cindy Grossman:
Christian's mother revealed that Walker threatened to kill her in a 2008 interview with ABC News. Grossman said that "her husband pointed a pistol at her head and said, 'I’m going to blow your f’ing brains out.'" Grossman filed for divorce in 2001, citing “physically abusive and extremely threatening behavior.” In 2005, Grossman secured a protective order against Walker, "alleging violent and controlling behavior." At the time, Grossman's sister said Walker "stated unequivocally that he was going to shoot my sister Cindy and her boyfriend in the head.”
Walker hasn't denied Grossman's allegations but has also refused to discuss them on the campaign trail. (In 2008, Walker told ABC he "probably did it" but claimed he couldn’t remember.) Walker now says addresses the incidents in his book, but the book does not discuss any incidents of violence involving Grossman.
Christian's allegation that his father has also threatened to kill him — and forced him and his mom to repeatedly relocate to stay safe — is new. In response, anonymous Republican operatives "close to Walker" have attacked Christian's character: "This is a deeply disturbed kid with obvious issues of his own. He’s a spoiled brat and is solely to blame if Herschel loses the race."
On the record, Republicans have chosen to ignore Christian's comments completely.
Republicans rally behind Walker, ignore allegations of domestic violence
On Tuesday, Senator Rick Scott (R-FL), who chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee, released a statement affirming his support for Walker:Scott blames "Democrats" for the attacks on Walker, but his son Christian is not a Democrat. Christian uses social media to tout his right-wing political views. Prior to posting about his father, Christian's Twitter account was frequently devoted to praising Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R). But Scott's statement does not grapple at all with Christian's allegations of death threats and violence.
The Senate Leadership Fund — the Super PAC controlled by Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) that is spending tens of millions of dollars supporting Walker's candidacy — said recent news has not shaken its support of Walker. Steven Law, the CEO of the Senate Leadership Fund, said the following:
But are allegations that Walker threatened to kill members of his family a "distraction"? Does Law think such conduct, if true, should be irrelevant to voters? Law did not respond to a request for comment.
Trump also defended Walker in a statement, saying the candidate was "being slandered and maligned by the Fake News Media and obviously, the Democrats." But Christian Walker is neither a member of the media, nor a Democrat.
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Sol Rosenberg
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None of that matters. There is only one thing Walker could do to lose support from Republicans: switch parties. It is a party of principle. One principle. Power. Nothing else matters.
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Newt Gingrich Mercilessly Mocked For Bizarre Hot Take On Herschel Walker
The former House speaker offered up a bizarre defense of the Senate candidate.
Speaking on Fox News, Gingrich hailed Walker as “the most important Senate candidate in the country” due to his “deep commitment to Christ.” That praise was offered despite Walker’s history of violence and domestic abuse and new accusations the supposed “pro-life” candidate paid for an abortion for a then-girlfriend in 2009.
... Gingrich talked up Walker as a “remarkable person” and praised his confidence. For some reason, Gingrich also brought up Walker’s health.
“He’s been through a long, tough period,” Gingrich said. “He had a lot of concussions coming out of football, he suffered PTSD.
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Yeah let’s elect some one to the Senate with CTE. With any luck he’ll shoot a Dem on the Senate floor…Newt Gingrich Mercilessly Mocked For Bizarre Hot Take On Herschel Walker
The former House speaker offered up a bizarre defense of the Senate candidate.www.huffpost.com
Speaking on Fox News, Gingrich hailed Walker as “the most important Senate candidate in the country” due to his “deep commitment to Christ.” That praise was offered despite Walker’s history of violence and domestic abuse and new accusations the supposed “pro-life” candidate paid for an abortion for a then-girlfriend in 2009.
... Gingrich talked up Walker as a “remarkable person” and praised his confidence. For some reason, Gingrich also brought up Walker’s health.
“He’s been through a long, tough period,” Gingrich said. “He had a lot of concussions coming out of football, he suffered PTSD.
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jerseyguy
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Newt’s still alive? In a just world and if there truly is a god; he wouldn’t beNewt Gingrich Mercilessly Mocked For Bizarre Hot Take On Herschel Walker
The former House speaker offered up a bizarre defense of the Senate candidate.
Speaking on Fox News, Gingrich hailed Walker as “the most important Senate candidate in the country” due to his “deep commitment to Christ.” That praise was offered despite Walker’s history of violence and domestic abuse and new accusations the supposed “pro-life” candidate paid for an abortion for a then-girlfriend in 2009.
... Gingrich talked up Walker as a “remarkable person” and praised his confidence. For some reason, Gingrich also brought up Walker’s health.
“He’s been through a long, tough period,” Gingrich said. “He had a lot of concussions coming out of football, he suffered PTSD.
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Hunker down, that's the ticket. What a dummy, he should have cleared the air, so what does he do? He throws chum into the shark tank.
ATLANTA — Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker left reporters out of his public appearance Tuesday at one of Atlanta’s most well-known churches.
It comes after an explosive allegation in the Daily Beast that he asked a former girlfriend to get an abortion and paid for it.
Channel 2 investigative reporter Justin Gray tried talking to Walker Tuesday about this campaign bombshell.
He asked for Walker to sit down with him and talk about the article and its claims in a one-on-one interview. Gray also tried to attend the prayer luncheon hosted for Walker at a prominent Atlanta church.
Yelling at his moving car was as close as Gray was allowed to get to Walker.
Gray was told reporters weren’t welcome at what was billed as a Walker prayer luncheon at First Baptist Atlanta.
“There was a decision by the campaign and the church to not allow media,” a representative told Gray. “This is a closed event. It’s a prayer event with faith leaders.”
The prayer luncheon comes one day after the explosive allegations that in 2009 Walker encouraged his then girlfriend to have an abortion.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/at...d-womans-abortion/WTZGCA6ZFJB2HOSSB3BN4DAT2A/
Reporters not let into Walker event 1 day after bombshell report he paid for woman's abortion
ATLANTA — Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker left reporters out of his public appearance Tuesday at one of Atlanta’s most well-known churches.
It comes after an explosive allegation in the Daily Beast that he asked a former girlfriend to get an abortion and paid for it.
Channel 2 investigative reporter Justin Gray tried talking to Walker Tuesday about this campaign bombshell.
He asked for Walker to sit down with him and talk about the article and its claims in a one-on-one interview. Gray also tried to attend the prayer luncheon hosted for Walker at a prominent Atlanta church.
Yelling at his moving car was as close as Gray was allowed to get to Walker.
Gray was told reporters weren’t welcome at what was billed as a Walker prayer luncheon at First Baptist Atlanta.
“There was a decision by the campaign and the church to not allow media,” a representative told Gray. “This is a closed event. It’s a prayer event with faith leaders.”
The prayer luncheon comes one day after the explosive allegations that in 2009 Walker encouraged his then girlfriend to have an abortion.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/at...d-womans-abortion/WTZGCA6ZFJB2HOSSB3BN4DAT2A/
Mrleft8
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"Senator Walker! Congratulations sir! Now that you're a US Senator what will you tackle first?"
"Who ever has the fu'bawl man! Stupid question!"
"No, sir, I mean what will your first act as a Senator!?"
"Uh... They hasn't tole me yet. I gots to huddle wiff the QB and dem."
"Who ever has the fu'bawl man! Stupid question!"
"No, sir, I mean what will your first act as a Senator!?"
"Uh... They hasn't tole me yet. I gots to huddle wiff the QB and dem."
Voyageur
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Can you explain what makes Mr. Walker the best candidate for the that Senate seat? Honesty, humility, empathy, candor, fame, experience or just being a hypocrite.
It will only be a f*ck up if he loses.
I've paid for an abortion. Actually, it wasn't that sort of payment, it was a co-pay. Diagnosis of the 3 month old fetus was "incompatible with life."
Cause was amniotic band syndrome. Baby was missing most of it's abdomen. We don't know s/he as there were no genitals. We could have continued the pregnancy until miscarriage, and the attendant risks, or terminated for the health of my wife.
So, asshole, what do you think we chose? Fuck you while you're at it.
Voyageur
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Peter A does not have a wife, he is an Incel, he cares little about women and what can happen with their bodies. Peter A is a MAGAT.
Well, he certainly is an asshole. I didn't have him on ignore as he's a window into the mind of the MAGATs- but he's on ignore now.
