How about a The Ocean Race Europe thread?

stief

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NOR Amendment 1 is up. Some Redbits:

https://theoceanrace.s3.amazonaws.com/files/m124130_The-Ocean-Race-Europe-Notice-of-Race-Amendment-No1.pdf






[SIZE=10pt]6.2 [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]IMOCA 60 Boats shall have: [/SIZE] IMOCA 60 Class Standard Solid Steel Fin keel [odd: why drop the OD keel req?]



[SIZE=10pt]8.4  [/SIZE]For all Legs in the IMOCA 60 Class there shall be four or five Crew on board, of which at least one shall be female[SIZE=10pt]. [one less][/SIZE]



[SIZE=10pt]8.8  [/SIZE]Crew Members may be changed for any Leg [hmmm. Allows for other commitments, or crew tryouts? 13.2 suggests tryouts]




[SIZE=10pt]13.2  [/SIZE]Teams are permitted a maximum of three Technical Shore Crew to maintain the boat during stopovers. Teams shall supply the names of the Technical Shore Crew 48 hours before each stopover. Contract divers may also clean the Hull and appendages. Crew from the previous Leg may also maintain the boat in stopovers.

[didn't notice tracker info and sked frequency]










 
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Teams are permitted a maximum of three Technical Shore Crew to maintain the boat during stopovers. Teams shall supply the names of the Technical Shore Crew 48 hours before each stopover. Contract divers may also clean the Hull and appendages. Crew from the previous Leg may also maintain the boat in stopovers.
I find this very strange indeed. Crews are only allowed three team members within their technical shore crew? 
 

For what reason? Covid, limiting numbers? Money, reducing costs? 
 

Now I know this isn’t a Vendee Globe but teams like Corum and LinkedOut had between 10 and 20 people in and out of the boat by the looks of all the photos and video that came from their social media posts. 

 

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Team size limiting, I guess. Weight advantage of sailing light air routes with four aboard means a max of 7 members (3 shore team). If a team wants to reserve 8 names, then they have to sail 5-up all legs

Might free up some key players to negotiate signing with various teams?

 
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For what reason? Covid, limiting numbers? Money, reducing costs
 

Now I know this isn’t a Vendee Globe but teams like Corum and LinkedOut had between 10 and 20 people in and out of the boat by the looks of all the photos and video that came from their social media posts. 
The Vendee did not have stop overs every so often. When a Vendee boat had to go to a harbor, a very quick turnaround was required.

I think using the IMOCA 60 is a really smart decision. The amount of data and refinements to the class will make it the Premier Off Shore everywhere on the globe. The next Vendee will have much better boats and more important Safer for the single hand sailor. Sponsors will also be able to get the $$$ worth by having a boat built for double duty. I can see a major revolution in structural design and construction by doing this.

I can't wait to see what a Crewed Foiling IMOCA 60 will do. I hope the foils are retractable though, in light air that would be good.

 

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The Vendee did not have stop overs every so often. When a Vendee boat had to go to a harbor, a very quick turnaround was required.

I think using the IMOCA 60 is a really smart decision. The amount of data and refinements to the class will make it the Premier Off Shore everywhere on the globe. The next Vendee will have much better boats and more important Safer for the single hand sailor. Sponsors will also be able to get the $$$ worth by having a boat built for double duty. I can see a major revolution in structural design and construction by doing this.

I can't wait to see what a Crewed Foiling IMOCA 60 will do. I hope the foils are retractable though, in light air that would be good.
Why? When a Vendée boat goes into a harbour it is retired, why do you think they need fast turn around?

I think that there will be one boat built for the Ocean Race (11th Hour), and then maybe a few other entries (Boris and a few others), but all the best teams will do the Route du Rhum which is far more important with bigger returns for less investment!

 

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Why? When a Vendée boat goes into a harbour it is retired, why do you think they need fast turn around?

I think that there will be one boat built for the Ocean Race (11th Hour), and then maybe a few other entries (Boris and a few others), but all the best teams will do the Route du Rhum which is far more important with bigger returns for less investment!
Agree. The clash with the RdR is nuts as it takes away any potential motivation to take part at the TOR for the main IMOCA teams. Running the TOR with just one new boat and various "lower level" old boats is doubtful... . I am still unsure how are they planning the logistics for a race with the two classes IMOCA and VO65. The arrivals are going to be widespread, resulting in longer stopovers, larger costs... . 

Anyhow, with 8 weeks to go the start of the Europe Ocean Race, confirmed entries, I believe:

IMOCA: 11th Hour, Corum, LinkedOut

VO65: Mirpuri

Anyone else??

 

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Who was the boat that returned for major repairs and then left to join the race? I forgot who but he was basically out of contention but he still RE-joined the race.
*She 

** They didn't rejoin the race. Sam completed her circumnavigation outside of the Vendee Globe. 

 

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Agree. The clash with the RdR is nuts as it takes away any potential motivation to take part at the TOR for the main IMOCA teams. Running the TOR with just one new boat and various "lower level" old boats is doubtful... . I am still unsure how are they planning the logistics for a race with the two classes IMOCA and VO65. The arrivals are going to be widespread, resulting in longer stopovers, larger costs... . 

Anyhow, with 8 weeks to go the start of the Europe Ocean Race, confirmed entries, I believe:

IMOCA: 11th Hour, Corum, LinkedOut

VO65: Mirpuri

Anyone else??
I think that is it for confirmed entries but Boris will likely be there. With French lockdown back I wouldn't be surprised if they just throw in the towel now. I think the same should be done for TOR more generally. Time for something else. I don't think anyone can revive it in its current form. A total overhaul is required in my uneducated opinion! 

 

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Who was the boat that returned for major repairs and then left to join the race? I forgot who but he was basically out of contention but he still RE-joined the race.


*She 

** They didn't rejoin the race. Sam completed her circumnavigation outside of the Vendee Globe. 
He.

Jeremy Beyou was one of the top favorites, with Alex Thomson. Charal, his boat had techincal issues within 48 hrs from the start. By race rules, you are not allowed to stop in any port, except the starting port, Les Sables d'Olonnes. That's what he did, returning back, and leaving more than a week after everybody else, once the repairs were made. He passed half the fleet, but he was supposed to fight for the win... Very different race for him, and a lot of moral fortitude to even restart.

 

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He.

Jeremy Beyou was one of the top favorites, with Alex Thomson. Charal, his boat had techincal issues within 48 hrs from the start. By race rules, you are not allowed to stop in any port, except the starting port, Les Sables d'Olonnes. That's what he did, returning back, and leaving more than a week after everybody else, once the repairs were made. He passed half the fleet, but he was supposed to fight for the win... Very different race for him, and a lot of moral fortitude to even restart.
yep, my mistake. I'd forgotten about Jeremy. 

 

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Germany announced entry yesterday (IMOCA). Star reborn

Offshore Team Germany has announced it will compete in the IMOCA class in The Ocean Race Europe. 

The team will be led by German sailors Robert Stanjek and Phillip Kasüske anchoring an international crew that features Annie Lush, a veteran of previous campaigns in The Ocean Race.

"This is a terrific sign. I'm happy that it's actually becoming real now and we are finally getting underway," says Robert Stanjek, who switched to offshore sailing following his London 2012 Olympic participation in the Star boat (sixth place with Fritjof Kleen). 

"For me, the significance of The Ocean Race is quite similar to the Olympics. And the preparations have the same dimensions to an Olympic campaign - even if the tasks are much more diverse.

"The Ocean Race is my big dream and participating in the first ever edition of The Ocean Race Europe is a fantastic opportunity. We are very aware that we will be the rookie team. But we will be ready and give the others a tough competition."

The team is planning training sessions off France ahead of the start in Lorient at the end of May.
https://www.theoceanrace.com/en/news/12665_Offshore-Team-Germany-joins-The-Ocean-Race-Europe.html

 

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Looks like TOR-E is seriously leveraging the greenies for funding and eyeballs. Boris Herrmann claimed the value of the data collected on his last VG was a huge savings for the Malizia foundation (have to find the exact link, but here's a bit)

Could work.  Pay a boat to gather info rather than trying to funding a stand-alone project, and generate more widespread interest. 

By capturing data about the state of our seas, through this unique collaboration between sailors and ocean research organisations, we are able to contribute to increased understanding of ocean health. It’s a privilege to be able to provide data of value to the scientific community and it’s vital that governments act on the scientific evidence to protect and restore our ocean and all that depends on it.”
Many more testimonials at https://www.theoceanrace.com/en/news/12674_The-Ocean-Race-Europe-to-gather-data-on-the-state-of-the-seas.html

Now if I could only find an entry list and the SIs  :lol:

 
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https://www.theoceanrace.com/en/the-ocean-race-europe (current entry list)

VO65 class
AmberSail (LIT)
Austrian Ocean Race Project (AUT)
Mirpuri Foundation Racing Team (POR)
Sailing Team Poland (POL)
Viva Mexico (MEX)
VO65 - team six - confirmed - to be announced
VO65 - team seven - confirmed - to be announced

IMOCA class
11th Hour Racing Team (USA)
CORUM L'Epargne (FRA)
LinkedOut (FRA)
Offshore Team Germany (GER)
IMOCA - team five

 
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