AJ Oliver
Super Anarchist
Gated communities are the very antithesis of the . .
"we're all in this together" ..
spirit.
"we're all in this together" ..
spirit.
They had staff intercept your boat and move it to your slip, washed it down and prepare it for your next outing. Call the clubhouse and order your breakfast have it delivered or it will be ready when you arrive. I can't remember everything they offered, but I do remember wanting to get out of there fast.I bet their meetings have nice sandwiches.
Sometimes, yes, my friend at the ocean loved the fact that it was gated. parking at any beach in SoCal is hard to find, keeping a fence up keeps hundreds of cars from driving up and down your street looking for an available spot to park.HOAs are carbuncles on the big ass of life.
Even the gangsters give the bodyguards of Saudi entourages a wide berth. The Saudis probably get the impression that Vancouver has lots of criminals, given that they rent in the same buildings criminals do. If they rented in cheaper builders, the suites would be more likely to be owner occupied and thus not gangster's lairs.And possibly an illegal casino upstairs.
You can check-out any time you like,They had staff intercept your boat and move it to your slip, washed it down and prepare it for your next outing. Call the clubhouse and order your breakfast have it delivered or it will be ready when you arrive. I can't remember everything they offered, but I do remember wanting to get out of there fast.
That sounds insane!I Just sold a villa in a HOA/POA, In many cases they take you rights as an American, Probable the most important is "Freedom of Speech" what size flag and what it says, What color curtains on your windows, type year, color , model and make of your car, what plants you can plant .Also they can search the inside of your house and seize any items they don't feel fits in there Assc.. They can put a lean on your property and throw you out for unpaid fines. Luckily I sold , but even after closing I was send notices for unpaid dues. They make Hitler look like a nice guy!
But we are NOT "all in this together". If random strangers have a huge party on our beach and trash the place, they don't have to pay to deal with it, we do. Once you have things like pools and beaches that are "attractive nuisances" in legal terms, you will have endless financial and legal problems if you let the general public just have at it.Gated communities are the very antithesis of the . .
"we're all in this together" ..
spirit.
No?I make a point of not stooping to the levels of stupidity...
Yep, first step is to define "we."But we are NOT "all in this together". If random strangers have a huge party on our beach and trash the place, they don't have to pay to deal with it, we do. Once you have things like pools and beaches that are "attractive nuisances" in legal terms, you will have endless financial and legal problems if you let the general public just have at it.Gated communities are the very antithesis of the . .
"we're all in this together" ..
spirit.
This ^Yep, first step is to define "we."
Don't like HOA/POA's then don't buy a house in one. OTOH if you don't like zoning, building codes, utilities, roads, access to water, etc etc... everywhere has some bureaucrat telling what to do! Doncha hate it?
Having a relatively nice home with some assurance that the neighborhood/community will stay nice, or even stay viable and livable, is better than having some assholes ruin it.
- DSK
In my area we have city bylaws and inspectors to enforce them. It can take some time to force compliance for unsightly yards, but it does get done. Running auto repair or such gets dealt with much quicker, someone blocking access is dealt with very quickly, within the hour mostly. It works.I Just sold a villa in a HOA/POA, In many cases they take you rights as an American, Probable the most important is "Freedom of Speech" what size flag and what it says, What color curtains on your windows, type year, color , model and make of your car, what plants you can plant .Also they can search the inside of your house and seize any items they don't feel fits in there Assc.. They can put a lean on your property and throw you out for unpaid fines. Luckily I sold , but even after closing I was send notices for unpaid dues. They make Hitler look like a nice guy!
I honestly don't understand this phenomena. I've heard of a neighborhood where you can't put a for sale sign in front of your house, you hang a wreath on the door like it's Christmas if you want to sell.
Say what????????????????People buy homes in HOA's to get away from city regs and codes, not realizing that
they have just added another layer of govt. to their lives with the association. (same with condo's)
Lots of HOA's are moving toward their own privatized police, fire, water/sewer, schools, libraries and more.
They are bailing on the country which I see as a problem.
Nationally, 61% of new single-family houses completed were in a HOA, up from 46% in 2009. There has been a 2% increase since 2016, when 59% of new single-family houses completed were administered by a homeowners' association.Aug 1, 2018
I loved anchoring off that tiny island near Gibson Island.Say what????????????????
HOAs do not magically exempt you from local zoning laws. Most people that want HOAs, as opposed to tolerating them, are there for STRICTER codes, not getting away from regulations. The last place I lived the roads and water system were private, we maintained both of them. This is not especially unusual, if you are far from municipal water pipes you can band together and drill one big well or tell everyone they are on their own to drill one per house. Also when the community was built long ago the local government was not at all interested in building roads there, so it was DIY or drive on dirt trails in the woods.
I have never ever heard of anyplace building their own school system nor police nor fire department. Well I take that back on the school, Gibson Island has a private elementary school on the island, but that is exceedingly rare. Some neighborhoods might have a security guard or two, but that is not the same thing. Maybe there is someplace with actual police departments? That would seem exceedingly expensive.
Interesting , If they become their own voting block , ( for government officials) can they become their own electoral college taking away your right to vote?People buy homes in HOA's to get away from city regs and codes, not realizing that
they have just added another layer of govt. to their lives with the association. (same with condo's)
Lots of HOA's are moving toward their own privatized police, fire, water/sewer, schools, libraries and more.
They are bailing on the country which I see as a problem.
Nationally, 61% of new single-family houses completed were in a HOA, up from 46% in 2009. There has been a 2% increase since 2016, when 59% of new single-family houses completed were administered by a homeowners' association.Aug 1, 2018
Did you not read the bylaws/covenants before you bought the property?I Just sold a villa in a HOA/POA, In many cases they take you rights as an American, Probable the most important is "Freedom of Speech" what size flag and what it says, What color curtains on your windows, type year, color , model and make of your car, what plants you can plant .Also they can search the inside of your house and seize any items they don't feel fits in there Assc.. They can put a lean on your property and throw you out for unpaid fines. Luckily I sold , but even after closing I was send notices for unpaid dues. They make Hitler look like a nice guy!