How NOT to anchor your sailboat in a hurricane

Innocent Bystander

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What the fuck are you smoking?

There is nothing in the article relating to anchoring or a cyclone

Fucking stupid Americans, you should relax your gun laws 'cause honestly you need to cull some of your poplulation.

You can start with this dumb post starter pippi.
Fucking idiot Queenslanders. Always ready to jump in without a clue. Back on the Bundy again Dale?

Hurricane Isaac is currently pounding the US Gulf Coast and Dauphin Island was evacuated as it was in the path of the storm. The boat was abandoned as the outer bands were coming ashore.

 

Beer Can

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What the fuck are you smoking?

There is nothing in the article relating to anchoring or a cyclone

Fucking stupid Americans, you should relax your gun laws 'cause honestly you need to cull some of your poplulation.

You can start with this dumb post starter pippi.
If you looked at the link they told about how the boat owner and cops anchored the boat before it broke loose and did all its damage. Why all the hate? Perhaps a chill pill would be in order?

 
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Dave

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What the fuck are you smoking?

There is nothing in the article relating to anchoring or a cyclone

Fucking stupid Americans, you should relax your gun laws 'cause honestly you need to cull some of your poplulation.

You can start with this dumb post starter pippi.
Actually YOU are an idiot. The article mentioned ISAAC. You know the current HURRICANE actually hitting that coast. Anyone watching their local news would be aware of that storm. The accompanying video also states the boat was anchored before it was abandoned.

BTW the sails weren't left up due to stupidity, the halyards were jammed. Granted sailing during a HURRICANE passed stupid to darwin category.

Feel like an arrogant misinformed ass now Dale dug a hole?

 

ryley

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I've always admired how well-balanced a ketch under mizzen and jib is.

 
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Snarley

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I try to post this prior to a hurricane...kind of late this time. Pascoe is an ex racer from IOR days who now makes his living doing mainly powerboat surveys in Florida.

He does have some great stories and good advice on his extensive site.

http://www.yachtsurv...preparation.htm

The local sheriff responded and I would disagree with the report. They did not cut the sheets or yank them out of the blocks. Instead all three sails are cleated and the boat is sailing. Jammed halyards should have been cut by the owner or the sheriff. The sails may not come down but with no effort look what happens.

Now boats with just the roller furling and a mast up will sail forward even when on a mooring during a hurricane but you have to try to prevent this when a boat is aground and you KNOW the water level is going to rise dramatically. Pascoe even has a story about how a boat owners insurance DID NOT COVER a hurricane event when the boat did damage to a house! Nothing like having to pay for a waterfront house that your unattended boat destroyed!

Anyways some good stuff from yachtsurvey.com to read.

 
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jww

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Just curious.Is that boat a TOCK,Tartan Offshore Cruising Ketch? Saw one many years ago new and never have seen one since.

 

Bump-n-Grind

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If the responders took the owner off the boat, whoever was left on it, might very well have no fucking idea how to roll up the headsail and/or open rope clutches to drop a halyard/ or have a knife to cut a halyard / or even know wtf a halyard is.

 
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Snarley

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Yes I believe that you are correct which brings up another little issue. The TV report claims that he was rescued by the Marine Patrol and resource officers.

The excuse I would have used vice not knowing what to do would be that they have their hands full with other issues and wanted to move on from this call or wanted to get the victim to shore as soon as possible.

Because using the did not know how or the no knife excuse leads down a road of exactly who is being hired to be the marine patrol or resource officers? What experience do they have? Are they learning about boats, ships that they may have to deal with?

What exactly are they doing on slow days?

So we do not hire ex US coast guard? No training on sailboats ... Is the marine patrol for this county the dumping ground for people who can not cut it on land?

I am right now dealing with a 40 person police department that for some reason does not have ANY former military other than one who is a reservist that has not yet deployed. If there is a serious problem the joke is to call the Fire Department.

 

HookEm

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Googled the boat's name and found this. Is it the same guy?

"Missing boater last seen off Fort Pierce found Fort Pierce Tribune Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:30 AM PDT A Coast Guard HU-25 Falcon Jet crew from Mobile, Alabama located Robert Jackson Jr. about 9 miles south of Mobile around 10 a.m. Sunday. He was found safe aboard his 45-foot sailing vessel, Sun Song"

 

HookEm

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Prior Coast Guard Report: News Release Date: March 15, 2009 Contact: Petty Officer Jennifer Johnson(786) 367-7649

Coast Guard locates missing boater near Mobile, Ala.

MIAMI - A Coast Guard HU-25 Falcon jet crew from Aviation Training Center, Mobile, Ala., located Robert Jackson, Jr., and his 45-foot sailing vessel Sun Song safe, nine miles south of Mobile around 10 a.m. Sunday. Crewmembers of the Coast Guard Cutter Cobia conducted a post search and rescue boarding with Jackson and discovered he had lost his cell phone overboard in Key West, Fla., and was unable to contact his family to let them know he was safe. Additionally, Jackson lost generator power and use of his VHF marine radio during the journey making him unaware of the Urgent Marine Information Broadcast being sent to help locate him. A family member contacted the Coast Guard District Seven Command Center in Miami Wednesday to report Robert Jackson Jr., had not been heard from since March 1 when he was off the coast of Fort Pierce, Fla. Jackson, an experienced sailor, departed from St. Augustine, Fla., Feb. 25, and was en route to his new home in Slidell, La. Jackson was last seen near the Cape Florida Light, off Miami March 3 when he rendered assistance from Tow Boat U.S. after running aground. Coast Guard units that assisted with the search for Jackson were:

  • C-130 Hercules fixed-wing aircrew from Air Station Clearwater, Fla.
  • HU-25 Falcon jet crew from Air Station Miami.
  • HU-25 Falcon jet crew from Aviation Training Center, Mobile, Ala.
  • Coast Guard Cutter Cobia, an 87-foot patrol boat homeported in Mobile, Ala.


"We were happy to find Mr. Jackson safe this morning," said Coast Guard Lt. Justin Nadolny, a search and rescue coordinator at the District Seven Command Center in Miami. "Jackson did the right thing by letting his family members know his departure date, and anticipated arrival date in Slidell, but could have better assisted planners by also providing his family with the intended route of travel. When his family couldn't get in touch with him, they contacted us and we begin our search which thankfully located him safe."

 
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tuf-luf

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Holy crap! That is perhaps one the most badly-written news articles I have ever read.

It reads like a post in a thread on a badly managed sailing site.

Seriously shite journo.

"You're fired!"

 

SHNOOL

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Sorry credibility went down dramatically in the video report with "boat nearly capsized several times."

Agreed, I think what you had were several individuals demanding the 76 yo abandon ship, wherein nobody know what a rope clutch, a cleat or a halyard was. Note it wasn't the Coasties, because they would!

But on a positive note, I know where you can find a decent blue water cruiser, just needs sails! Proven very balanced boat.

 
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