island33
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Hutch out?!1??
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Hastings
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So there is the difference.
A team of all-stars.
Or an all-star team.
Where people have job security.
Even now, it is not clear whether Loick or Nathan will be on the handlebars.
I do not see this as "Terry" thing.
More a manifestation of some kind of malaise in AR.
A team of all-stars.
Or an all-star team.
Where people have job security.
Even now, it is not clear whether Loick or Nathan will be on the handlebars.
I do not see this as "Terry" thing.
More a manifestation of some kind of malaise in AR.
Tornado-Cat
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Any link with last problems ? knifes must have been flying...
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PeterHuston
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Probably best news T Hutch could get. No doubt he had a big buy out clause in his contract. Now he doesn't have to deal with a broken boat and will not be blamed when the Kiwi's kick their ass. Because the Kiwi's simply can not be beaten. Just ask the Kiwi Religious Right here.
Daimond
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Now maybe they can replace the sticky back stickers on their left sleeves with something a little more permanent.
bwana
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In hindsight, this seems like it was inevitable, given the acquisition of Peyron, et al. But didn't Hutch pretty much own the French on the water?
PeterHuston
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What happens now with Energy? Is that still Loick's team? Does he still helm?
Last time I checked the AC is won with match racing . . . and the brain trust at Artemis, aka Cayard, just lost their best asset. Nice job on that one! Nothing like being in total disarray with their boat and then disrupting the team. I have never heard anything but good things about Hutch working with the team. At the same time it has been painful to watch Cayard's ego get more and more in the way of a successful program.
SimonN
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I certainly don't see this as disarray as some people seem to think it is. With Loick coming on board, they had their safe, experienced pair of hands. With Nathan, they have their "young gun" whohas all the ability and huge potential. Where does Hutch fit in? He doesn't bring either the experience of Loick or the potential of Nathan. Plus, whenever there has been big breeze, he has looked decidedly dodgy on the helm while Nathan has shown himslef to be a natural. Hutch's natural instincts haven't adapted to multis and they simply cannot afford to do an Oracle. And to date, Nathan hasn't been given the opportunity to helm at all.
I think the key to this is Ian Percy. As has been reported elsewhere, it seems he has been taking more and more of a role in driving the sailing program and that the crew has gravitated towards him for leadership. I was never convinced by the dynamic between Perc and Hutch, but I can see Perc and Nathan working really well, while I suspect that Perc has enough respect for Loick if Nathan doesn't get up to grade.
Finally, they will have had the chance to see Hutch at the helm of the AC72 and one has to suspect they didn't like what they saw. Hutch may be the best match racer they have at the moment, but to finish first, first they have to finish and of the 3 potential helms, Hutch was the one I would have had least confidence in.
To me, this is a very decisive move and is anything but a team in disarray. Hutch was given every chance to show himself as a multihull sailor and to build the team around him and it seems pretty clear he was, at best, struggling with both. They also gave him the chance to helm the AC72. I guess if it had been ETNZ, their "loyalty" would have meant they went forward with a sub standard helm while if it was OR, he would have been parked in another role and simply be paid lost of money for nothing. All told, I see this as a good move at the right time and I expect the team to be significantly stronger for it.
I think the key to this is Ian Percy. As has been reported elsewhere, it seems he has been taking more and more of a role in driving the sailing program and that the crew has gravitated towards him for leadership. I was never convinced by the dynamic between Perc and Hutch, but I can see Perc and Nathan working really well, while I suspect that Perc has enough respect for Loick if Nathan doesn't get up to grade.
Finally, they will have had the chance to see Hutch at the helm of the AC72 and one has to suspect they didn't like what they saw. Hutch may be the best match racer they have at the moment, but to finish first, first they have to finish and of the 3 potential helms, Hutch was the one I would have had least confidence in.
To me, this is a very decisive move and is anything but a team in disarray. Hutch was given every chance to show himself as a multihull sailor and to build the team around him and it seems pretty clear he was, at best, struggling with both. They also gave him the chance to helm the AC72. I guess if it had been ETNZ, their "loyalty" would have meant they went forward with a sub standard helm while if it was OR, he would have been parked in another role and simply be paid lost of money for nothing. All told, I see this as a good move at the right time and I expect the team to be significantly stronger for it.
RCH
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Ok people. Here is the scoop. This is a power play by Paul Cayard. The guy is trying to justify his large paycheck. Bottom line is the guy f'ed up with a more conservative approach to the design and his lack of knowledge of how to race in the modern era. Paul was brought in and realized he was over his head. Panic ensued and he had to make some changes to make him look like "the man."
Louik Peyron and Ian Percy are mac daddies who are awesome AND they also work REALLY well with TH. Percy's communications with Terry is fantastic and Louik is the person who is the sage amongst the group who everyone could learn from.
BOTTOM LINE: This is Paul Cayard being a complete DICK. He got called out from the man who writes the checks in Sweden and needed a scapegoat.
Terry is taking the fall for a poorly managed campaign and Cayard cannot escape this. TH will prevail like he always has. Cayard will burn in effigy for this.
PS - Simon N - Respectfully - You have no idea what you are talking about.
Louik Peyron and Ian Percy are mac daddies who are awesome AND they also work REALLY well with TH. Percy's communications with Terry is fantastic and Louik is the person who is the sage amongst the group who everyone could learn from.
BOTTOM LINE: This is Paul Cayard being a complete DICK. He got called out from the man who writes the checks in Sweden and needed a scapegoat.
Terry is taking the fall for a poorly managed campaign and Cayard cannot escape this. TH will prevail like he always has. Cayard will burn in effigy for this.
PS - Simon N - Respectfully - You have no idea what you are talking about.
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RCH
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I stand by my comments. If you think PC is managing this well, you are kidding yourself. NZ is going to own this cup.
PS - Glad to see they posted this press release on a Friday night. Guessing "old school" Cayard consulted with an "old school" media advisor who advised that is when they should try to push this under the rug. Guess they were REALLY excited about this change they pushed it to a Friday afternoon?
PS - Glad to see they posted this press release on a Friday night. Guessing "old school" Cayard consulted with an "old school" media advisor who advised that is when they should try to push this under the rug. Guess they were REALLY excited about this change they pushed it to a Friday afternoon?
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Mambo Kings
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I think you are all missing the "behind the scene" role that Ian Munslow is playing here.
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My sources are confirming what you have said. Crazy that this is the way he wanted to prove to his money guy that he is doing all he can to win. The boat from what I hear is not what they expected and they are concerned they will not be able to match up with ETNZ.
My source also stated to me that they are looking at this as they are no longer looking at this from a Match Racing stand point but a Multihull speed race so this would fit Nathan better vs Terry.
They don't believe there will be a lot of tacks or gybes but more working one side of course as quickly as possible which is where Percy comes in.
So in conclusion, they have a "plan" and even though I personally don't agree with it, they are working more on trying to race this boat in way to cover up the short comings.
I will report back when I hear more!
