I like emails like this

[Bob Perry]

Hi Bob,

We are still having success against the Melges 32's, Farr 30's and custom Hick 30's Dovell etc... everyone loves the boat.

You did a great job - thanks Bruce

[SIZE=11pt]https://www.sail-world.com/photo/309314[/SIZE]

 

[ryley]

that's awesome, but.. is that rudder deflection just an optical illusion?

 

[glass]

YES, it is an optical illusion regarding the Betts c/f aftermarket rudder in the above photo

FT10M owners went through phony rudder deflection claims by a few California PHRF pickle dish hunters who wanted to use Betts custom designed c/f rudder without rating penalty while refusing to equalize the weight differential by using corrector weights in the transom. Those are the same clowns that killed the FT10M as a one design class by failing to produce any quantitative and qualitative data that supported their phony claims.

It was the sailors that made the difference, not the rudders.

 

[Rasputin22]

I think there is a photo of a FT 10 hanging bow down by being lifted by its rudder cassette that was in response to 'rudder shortcomings' similar to those mentioned by glass.

Found it

View attachment 363984

 

[timber]

Are they using shorter stature people to make the boat look bigger?

 

[Trovão]

that's awesome, but.. is that rudder deflection just an optical illusion?

i really hope so...

 

[ryley]

It was the sailors that made the difference, not the rudders.

as is usually the case. And I have seen Rasper's picture before too and wasn't doubting the strength of the cassette. I just didn't think that the rudder in the picture looked, well, straight.  It looks about the same angle of deflection, and on about the same point of sail, that my phil's rudder was when it went kersnappy.

I'm glad they're enjoying the boat though. 

 

[Tarnish]

We are just a couple of posts in... and already we have the “rudder” argument and the famous “hanging” picture. Now all we need is “deposit or STFU” and “what’s it rate”. It is amazing, after all of these years, the strong reactions to this boat. 

I owned one for a few years and enjoyed every minute. I have even considered buying one again. In the main SA forum there is a post about the Tiger QMN in Atlanta - we enjoyed sailing against them on Lake Lanier, it was great to have a small one design class for a few years. 

They are nice sailing, well mannered, and beautiful boats. They seem to have held up well and I am sure the new owners will get many years of enjoyment from the design. Thanks Bob! 

 

[glass]

Hi Bob,

We are still having success against the Melges 32's, Farr 30's and custom Hick 30's Dovell etc... everyone loves the boat.

You did a great job - thanks Bruce

[SIZE=11pt]https://www.sail-world.com/photo/309314[/SIZE]

View attachment 434033

We are still having success against the Melges 32's, Farr 30's, custom Hick 30's, and many other notable boats.


FIRST IN 12 BOAT SECTION AND EIGHT TO FINISH OVER THE LINE IN 108 BOAT FLEET
Chicago to Waukegan
Date: 06/23/07 StartTime: 08:45:00 Distance: 26.2 nm






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Flying Tiger


THAT IS ME


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PHRF2


13:26:41


04:41:41


04:20:43


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2


6


50136


Salsa


Stott,Pete + Sue


27


CYC


J/130


13:22:04


04:37:04


04:25:17


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3


10


52120


Valkyrie


Moore,John


48


COL


J/120


13:31:47


04:46:47


04:25:49


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4


11


50791


Sirocco 2


Klairmont,Robert


48


WYC


J/120


13:31:52


04:46:52


04:25:54


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5


18


52039


Jahazi


Giampoli,Frank


51


COL


J/120


13:39:31


04:54:31


04:32:15


5




6


9


52144


Eagles Wings


John J. Gottwald


21


COL


Grand Soleil 44R


13:30:10


04:45:10


04:36:00


6




7


22


50306


Elusive


Vargish,Thomas


48


COL


J/120


13:42:25


04:57:25


04:36:27


7




8


62


10


Troubadour


Wilhelm,Lars + Felicia


57


CYC


Dehler 39


13:47:31


05:02:31


04:37:38


8




9


14


28380


Spirit Walker


McCain,Vern


24


SHYC


B & H 41


13:34:27


04:49:27


04:38:58


9




10


60


50134


Sirocco VI


Fanizzo,Bill & Viviana


51


CYC


Mumm 36


13:47:21


05:02:21


04:40:05


10




11


17


39536


Jason


Cohen,Edward


30


BPYC


Farr 395


13:38:44


04:53:44


04:40:38


11




12


68


42341


Fitikoko


Zienda,John


54


CYC


Tripp 38


13:50:33


05:05:33


04:41:58


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[Jason AUS]

We are just a couple of posts in... and already we have the “rudder” argument and the famous “hanging” picture. Now all we need is “deposit or STFU” and “what’s it rate”. It is amazing, after all of these years, the strong reactions to this boat. 

I dunno about them windows!

 

[00seven]

I dunno about them windows!

What's your hull number??

 

[00seven]

So OP says Sydney Harbour.

Results above are from Chicago?

And? There's no Hicks, Melges or Farrs in the posted results either. Do you not think it might be another happy owner from another port?

You're stupid.

 

[Foredeck Shuffle]

What's your hull number??

At least no one was asking if the workers could afford shoes.

 

[Wess]

I dunno about them windows!

Gold right there.  The rudders were shit though.

 

[ryley]

What's your hull number??

he didn't get one because he didn't like the windows. try to keep up

I didn't get one either - but that's cuz I couldn't afford one. and I didn't like the windows.