I like emails like this

Bob Perry

Super Anarchist
31,911
1,201
Hi Bob,

We are still having success against the Melges 32's, Farr 30's and custom Hick 30's Dovell etc... everyone loves the boat.

You did a great job - thanks Bruce

[SIZE=11pt]https://www.sail-world.com/photo/309314[/SIZE]

FT10m sydney.jpg

 

glass

Member
217
37
planet Earth
YES, it is an optical illusion regarding the Betts c/f aftermarket rudder in the above photo

FT10M owners went through phony rudder deflection claims by a few California PHRF pickle dish hunters who wanted to use Betts custom designed c/f rudder without rating penalty while refusing to equalize the weight differential by using corrector weights in the transom. Those are the same clowns that killed the FT10M as a one design class by failing to produce any quantitative and qualitative data that supported their phony claims.

It was the sailors that made the difference, not the rudders.

 
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Rasputin22

Rasputin22
13,397
3,032
I think there is a photo of a FT 10 hanging bow down by being lifted by its rudder cassette that was in response to 'rudder shortcomings' similar to those mentioned by glass.

Found it

View attachment 363984

 

ryley

Super Anarchist
5,429
621
Boston, MA
It was the sailors that made the difference, not the rudders.
as is usually the case. And I have seen Rasper's picture before too and wasn't doubting the strength of the cassette. I just didn't think that the rudder in the picture looked, well, straight. :)  It looks about the same angle of deflection, and on about the same point of sail, that my phil's rudder was when it went kersnappy.

I'm glad they're enjoying the boat though. 

 

Tarnish

New member
10
6
Chicago
We are just a couple of posts in... and already we have the “rudder” argument and the famous “hanging” picture. Now all we need is “deposit or STFU” and “what’s it rate”. It is amazing, after all of these years, the strong reactions to this boat. 

I owned one for a few years and enjoyed every minute. I have even considered buying one again. In the main SA forum there is a post about the Tiger QMN in Atlanta - we enjoyed sailing against them on Lake Lanier, it was great to have a small one design class for a few years. 

They are nice sailing, well mannered, and beautiful boats. They seem to have held up well and I am sure the new owners will get many years of enjoyment from the design. Thanks Bob! 

 

glass

Member
217
37
planet Earth
Hi Bob,

We are still having success against the Melges 32's, Farr 30's and custom Hick 30's Dovell etc... everyone loves the boat.

You did a great job - thanks Bruce

[SIZE=11pt]https://www.sail-world.com/photo/309314[/SIZE]

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We are still having success against the Melges 32's, Farr 30's, custom Hick 30's, and many other notable boats.


FIRST IN 12 BOAT SECTION AND EIGHT TO FINISH OVER THE LINE IN 108 BOAT FLEET
Chicago to Waukegan
Date: 06/23/07 StartTime: 08:45:00 Distance: 26.2 nm







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Skipper


PHRF


Club


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Finish


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Corrected


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8


 


Flying Tiger


THAT IS ME


48


 


PHRF2


13:26:41


04:41:41


04:20:43


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2


6


50136


Salsa


Stott,Pete + Sue


27


CYC


J/130


13:22:04


04:37:04


04:25:17


2




3


10


52120


Valkyrie


Moore,John


48


COL


J/120


13:31:47


04:46:47


04:25:49


3




4


11


50791


Sirocco 2


Klairmont,Robert


48


WYC


J/120


13:31:52


04:46:52


04:25:54


4




5


18


52039


Jahazi


Giampoli,Frank


51


COL


J/120


13:39:31


04:54:31


04:32:15


5




6


9


52144


Eagles Wings


John J. Gottwald


21


COL


Grand Soleil 44R


13:30:10


04:45:10


04:36:00


6




7


22


50306


Elusive


Vargish,Thomas


48


COL


J/120


13:42:25


04:57:25


04:36:27


7




8


62


10


Troubadour


Wilhelm,Lars + Felicia


57


CYC


Dehler 39


13:47:31


05:02:31


04:37:38


8




9


14


28380


Spirit Walker


McCain,Vern


24


SHYC


B & H 41


13:34:27


04:49:27


04:38:58


9




10


60


50134


Sirocco VI


Fanizzo,Bill & Viviana


51


CYC


Mumm 36


13:47:21


05:02:21


04:40:05


10




11


17


39536


Jason


Cohen,Edward


30


BPYC


Farr 395


13:38:44


04:53:44


04:40:38


11




12


68


42341


Fitikoko


Zienda,John


54


CYC


Tripp 38


13:50:33


05:05:33


04:41:58


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Jason AUS

Super Anarchist
2,267
332
Sydney
We are just a couple of posts in... and already we have the “rudder” argument and the famous “hanging” picture. Now all we need is “deposit or STFU” and “what’s it rate”. It is amazing, after all of these years, the strong reactions to this boat. 
I dunno about them windows!

 

00seven

James "Grumpy" Bond
2,349
567
Blue marble
Randorm said:
So OP says Sydney Harbour.

Results above are from Chicago?
And? There's no Hicks, Melges or Farrs in the posted results either. Do you not think it might be another happy owner from another port?

You're stupid.

 
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