I Made The Mistake of Watching Tom Ehman Again.

It is time I'm never going to get back.

  • Why do people pay any attention to Tom at all? His show literally had just 50 people tuning in at it's peak. 
  • He comes across as someone disparately trying to maintain their relevance in a sport that has moved on and left him behind.
  • He is farcically short sighted and just looks stupid when his own arguments contradict each other but he doesn't see it.


    Case in point. In the last show he went on and on about EB and Alinghi seeing this as the perfect time to enter the AC again. Tom thinks they see ETNZ as distracted, under funded, fighting battles left and right and he thinks EB thinks he has a good chance of wining. Then immediately after this rant, without irony or self awareness, berates ETNZ for needing more money, trying to take the event off shore, and basically says he knows more about running an international free to air broadcast and world class event in 2021 than Grant does. Does he not see that his own argument for Alinghi is precisely the reason ETNZ need to doing what they are doing.
  • In a previous show, he went on and on about the budgets being out of control, but then in the same show he said he wanted to see a DOG match between INEOS and ETNZ. What do you think will happen to the budgets then? Cue gigantic exploding nuclear mushroom cloud. What flow on effect would that have to the next cycle? 



Tom, you're an absolute numbskull. 

There is plenty of good stuff to talk about in AC at the moment, especially with Alinghi back in. Support your sport, don't try and rip those down who are pushing it's limits.

 

Stingray~

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I watch and enjoy most of the material on TE's shows and the subjects do change with the times, naturally. If you don't care to watch that well-produced show, then don't :)

 
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floater

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It is time I'm never going to get back.

  • Why do people pay any attention to Tom at all? His show literally had just 50 people tuning in at it's peak. 
  • He comes across as someone disparately trying to maintain their relevance in a sport that has moved on and left him behind.
  • He is farcically short sighted and just looks stupid when his own arguments contradict each other but he doesn't see it.


    Case in point. In the last show he went on and on about EB and Alinghi seeing this as the perfect time to enter the AC again. Tom thinks they see ETNZ as distracted, under funded, fighting battles left and right and he thinks EB thinks he has a good chance of wining. Then immediately after this rant, without irony or self awareness, berates ETNZ for needing more money, trying to take the event off shore, and basically says he knows more about running an international free to air broadcast and world class event in 2021 than Grant does. Does he not see that his own argument for Alinghi is precisely the reason ETNZ need to doing what they are doing.
  • In a previous show, he went on and on about the budgets being out of control, but then in the same show he said he wanted to see a DOG match between INEOS and ETNZ. What do you think will happen to the budgets then? Cue gigantic exploding nuclear mushroom cloud. What flow on effect would that have to the next cycle? 



Tom, you're an absolute numbskull. 

There is plenty of good stuff to talk about in AC at the moment, especially with Alinghi back in. Support your sport, don't try and rip those down who are pushing it's limits.
possible explanation: He hasn't drunk the Kool-aid that Dalt's is handing out.

 

dg_sailingfan

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It is time I'm never going to get back.

  • Why do people pay any attention to Tom at all? His show literally had just 50 people tuning in at it's peak. 
  • He comes across as someone disparately trying to maintain their relevance in a sport that has moved on and left him behind.
  • He is farcically short sighted and just looks stupid when his own arguments contradict each other but he doesn't see it.


    Case in point. In the last show he went on and on about EB and Alinghi seeing this as the perfect time to enter the AC again. Tom thinks they see ETNZ as distracted, under funded, fighting battles left and right and he thinks EB thinks he has a good chance of wining. Then immediately after this rant, without irony or self awareness, berates ETNZ for needing more money, trying to take the event off shore, and basically says he knows more about running an international free to air broadcast and world class event in 2021 than Grant does. Does he not see that his own argument for Alinghi is precisely the reason ETNZ need to doing what they are doing.
  • In a previous show, he went on and on about the budgets being out of control, but then in the same show he said he wanted to see a DOG match between INEOS and ETNZ. What do you think will happen to the budgets then? Cue gigantic exploding nuclear mushroom cloud. What flow on effect would that have to the next cycle? 



Tom, you're an absolute numbskull. 

There is plenty of good stuff to talk about in AC at the moment, especially with Alinghi back in. Support your sport, don't try and rip those down who are pushing it's limits.
I am absolutely agreeing with you. He's contradicting himself too much. The Reason we have actually this spat between Dalton and Dunphy is also because of Ehman and his conspiracy theories about Court Action, etc. As soon as it was clear that ETNZ & NZ Govtm wouldn't get a deal done he started this nonsense.

He is very close to Hamish Ross and had Dunphy on his Show. He could have talked some common sense to both but choose not to do it.

 

atwinda

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As with everything in the AC the span between actual AC events leaves everyone grasping at straws to fill the void.

 

Stingray~

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As with everything in the AC the span between actual AC events leaves everyone grasping at straws to fill the void.
True but a lot of what TE covers AC-wise is splashed all over the papers too, although he does sometimes also forecast some it of correctly. It is not like he is the story, more a 'story-teller' in the way he is able to condense subject-matter from the sailing world in a way most people would not to try do on their own. It's nice to tune into a show that has it already prepared. The Oman Sail Muscat pieces today are a good example, they were superb.

I give credit to TE for being bright, experienced and humorous/entertaining. Also for having produced over 475 shows (!!!) and counting with amazing dexterity. That he has had such a wide-ranging guest list is impressive too, including with open invitations to his friend Russell Greene at ETNZ whose appearance has been accepted and is pending. 

Judging by his tight group of mostly-classy viewers they must feel the same way. 

 
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Sailbydate

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It is time I'm never going to get back.

  • Why do people pay any attention to Tom at all? His show literally had just 50 people tuning in at it's peak. 
  • He comes across as someone disparately trying to maintain their relevance in a sport that has moved on and left him behind.
  • He is farcically short sighted and just looks stupid when his own arguments contradict each other but he doesn't see it.


    Case in point. In the last show he went on and on about EB and Alinghi seeing this as the perfect time to enter the AC again. Tom thinks they see ETNZ as distracted, under funded, fighting battles left and right and he thinks EB thinks he has a good chance of wining. Then immediately after this rant, without irony or self awareness, berates ETNZ for needing more money, trying to take the event off shore, and basically says he knows more about running an international free to air broadcast and world class event in 2021 than Grant does. Does he not see that his own argument for Alinghi is precisely the reason ETNZ need to doing what they are doing.
  • In a previous show, he went on and on about the budgets being out of control, but then in the same show he said he wanted to see a DOG match between INEOS and ETNZ. What do you think will happen to the budgets then? Cue gigantic exploding nuclear mushroom cloud. What flow on effect would that have to the next cycle? 



Tom, you're an absolute numbskull. 

There is plenty of good stuff to talk about in AC at the moment, especially with Alinghi back in. Support your sport, don't try and rip those down who are pushing it's limits.
Isn't he a bit like an addiction to hookers? Hard to give up - at least that's what a friend tells me. ;-)

 

Stingray~

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Ha! Yes you can 'blame everything on me' (or Tom) if that makes you feel good :)  Am just saying I enjoy Sailing Illustrated and so try to not miss the shows. So freakin' what? 

There are several folks who used to post here but now follow only there instead.

 
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I am absolutely agreeing with you. He's contradicting himself too much. The Reason we have actually this spat between Dalton and Dunphy is also because of Ehman and his conspiracy theories about Court Action, etc. As soon as it was clear that ETNZ & NZ Govtm wouldn't get a deal done he started this nonsense.

He is very close to Hamish Ross and had Dunphy on his Show. He could have talked some common sense to both but choose not to do it.
He comes across as their official mouth piece, based on what he covers and what he ignores. ZERO impartiality. 

 

chesirecat

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It is time I'm never going to get back.

  • Why do people pay any attention to Tom at all? His show literally had just 50 people tuning in at it's peak. 
  • He comes across as someone disparately trying to maintain their relevance in a sport that has moved on and left him behind.
  • He is farcically short sighted and just looks stupid when his own arguments contradict each other but he doesn't see it.


    Case in point. In the last show he went on and on about EB and Alinghi seeing this as the perfect time to enter the AC again. Tom thinks they see ETNZ as distracted, under funded, fighting battles left and right and he thinks EB thinks he has a good chance of wining. Then immediately after this rant, without irony or self awareness, berates ETNZ for needing more money, trying to take the event off shore, and basically says he knows more about running an international free to air broadcast and world class event in 2021 than Grant does. Does he not see that his own argument for Alinghi is precisely the reason ETNZ need to doing what they are doing.
  • In a previous show, he went on and on about the budgets being out of control, but then in the same show he said he wanted to see a DOG match between INEOS and ETNZ. What do you think will happen to the budgets then? Cue gigantic exploding nuclear mushroom cloud. What flow on effect would that have to the next cycle? 



Tom, you're an absolute numbskull. 

There is plenty of good stuff to talk about in AC at the moment, especially with Alinghi back in. Support your sport, don't try and rip those down who are pushing it's limits.
I'm in awe you had the fortitude to listen through it.

 

barfy

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Am just saying I enjoy Sailing Illustrated and so try to not miss the shows. So freakin' what? 
No, you are giving TE powers of amazing dexterity which are difficult to back up with hard facts.

Fun, but not really.

I give credit to TE for being bright, experienced and humorous/entertaining. Also for having produced over 475 shows (!!!) and counting with amazing dexterity

 

atwinda

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True but a lot of what TE covers AC-wise is splashed all over the papers too, although he does sometimes also forecast some it of correctly. It is not like he is the story, more a 'story-teller' in the way he is able to condense subject-matter from the sailing world in a way most people would not to try do on their own. It's nice to tune into a show that has it already prepared. The Oman Sail Muscat pieces today are a good example, they were superb.

I give credit to TE for being bright, experienced and humorous/entertaining. Also for having produced over 475 shows (!!!) and counting with amazing dexterity. That he has had such a wide-ranging guest list is impressive too, including with open invitations to his friend Russell Greene at ETNZ whose appearance has been accepted and is pending. 

Judging by his tight group of mostly-classy viewers they must feel the same way. 
I really do think it's great that someone has put themselves out there to produce a sailing specific show, and that they've been able to keep it going for 450+ shows. But it's just hard to watch unless there is a reputable guest (not MW), or we're close enough to an actual cup event that there is non-speculative news to share and discuss.

All the "ac news" right now is just wasteful- what we read is doom and gloom, and TE plays into that so well- but what we see with actual team press releases and media statements is that the teams are working on their design teams, tooling, designing and building their required hydrogen foiling boats, etc... They are just getting on, doing the work they need to do to win the cup. But that doesn't make a compelling story.

 

NeedAClew

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It was very in-crowd with the FOSI subscribers getting mentioned all the time.  Is he going to do more covid shows? Plus it is/was too long.

Props for production value but content needs tightening for me to watch again.

 

Stingray~

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It was very in-crowd with the FOSI subscribers getting mentioned all the time.  Is he going to do more covid shows? Plus it is/was too long.

Props for production value but content needs tightening for me to watch again.
Yes, he does cover Covid developments in some detail, and not always just sailing-events-related. To his credit he presciently started alerting folks to the possible implications very soon after the first reports out of Wuhan, well before the implications became alarming to the rest of the world. And yes, some viewers would prefer there was less importance placed on it, on a sailing show. Me, I appreciate being able to ask actual specialists like McIrvine real-time, on occasion.

Yes, it typically runs 2 hrs or so. Being retired now and given that time of day, it works well for me.

 

NeedAClew

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I preferred a shorter show of whatever content and not that vitamin megadose cult crap from the UK doctor of nursing.  Once and gone. 

 

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I listen/watch occasionally and no doubt the show takes a lot or work to put together - the production is remarkably smooth and Tom has real "talk-show" skills.  But it is targeted to my demographic (old white American) - both cadence and content - and there is nowhere near enough of that demo's content to support 2 shows per week.  These forums (with selection), Bar Karate and Broad Reach Radio are way ahead in terms of informing and promoting the sport.

 
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Sea Breeze 74

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I find him unwatchable. He sometimes has a few interesting tidbits but I cannot sit through a session. It's like watching my dear old dad trying to get the right HDMI input on the TV, he gets there in the end but it's fucking painful to witness.

I prefer Stingray take one for the team and tell us the relevant points later.

 
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