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[Tokyo Trash Baby]

but Tokyo in an all round event like the St Helena Cup last year you were 46min Race 1 and nearly an hour in Race 2 behind us fella.

fuck! im not talking in an allround race, im talking about two match ups for downwind and upwind. the elliott 7's are our match up DOWNWIND, not all the way around the bloody track. we then compare to a ross 650 upwind if we sail well. i never said we compare to the elliotts upwind.

 

[Markb]

but Tokyo in an all round event like the St Helena Cup last year you were 46min Race 1 and nearly an hour in Race 2 behind us fella.

Last years St Helena cup Sunday results (elapsed)

Wind was around 18knots

Raptor (Stealth 7m) 2.26.28

Guided Missile (Stealth 8m) 2.27.58

Margaret A (8m Sportsboat) 2.33.14

LikeaTiger (FT10m) 2.34.32

Mumbles (Mumm 30) 2.35.39

Mister Magoo (Thompson 7) 2.37.51

Team Avalon (Melges 24) 2.40.08

Synergy (Mumm 30) 2.41.41

Matilda (Melges 24) 2.43.05

Rice Rocket (Thompson 650) 2.45.10

Barney Army (Elliott 7) 2.48.45

Go Go Mango (Elliott 7) 3.01.51

M750 (M750) 3.02.05

Mickey Rat (Ross 650) 3.16.51

Cocktails N Dreams (Ross 650) 3.26.55

Tokyo Trash Baby (i550) 3.44.52

 

[Markb]

fuck! im not talking in an allround race, im talking about two match ups for downwind and upwind. the elliott 7's are our match up DOWNWIND, not all the way around the bloody track. we then compare to a ross 650 upwind if we sail well. i never said we compare to the elliotts upwind.

Not what Timber said. He said it 12kn+ you can match it with an E7.

Your example was downwind lottery race which is not very good for making a boat speed comparison. St Helena cup is a perfect race for making those comparisons. Barman was purely standing up for his class.

 

[Tokyo Trash Baby]

Not what Timber said. He said it 12kn+ you can match it with an E7. then i posted and corrected what he had saidYour example was downwind lottery race which is not very good for making a boat speed comparison. why not once the breeze was in we were doing E7 speed and started passing a couple long after the breeze was in......the boats are sailing in the same breeze at that point, pretty good point to make a speed comparason i think! St Helena cup is a perfect race for making those comparisons. Hardly considering we got hit, went in the piss, broke our bow pole and lost a halyard over both days Barman was purely standing up for his class.

 

[Barman]

you were not that far infront of us barman on the first day. if we could pass the "poorly sailed" ones then we could atleast be pacing with the "well sailed" ones then!

36min over 2 days Tokyo, in 10knots of breeze thats outa sight, in a downwind race.

 

[Tokyo Trash Baby]

36min over 2 days Tokyo, in 10knots of breeze thats outa sight, in a downwind race.

bahaha yeah and the majority of that stat you have posted was on the second day in less than 10knots most of the day and we got stuck at a mark along with twister the elliott 7 which took ALOT of time to get round. but when the conditions are right eg- later half in the first day of b2b, we go pretty well against them

 

[Barman]

Whatever, Tokyo they are Elliott beaters.

 

[Tokyo Trash Baby]

Whatever, Tokyo they are Elliott beaters.

 

[Grant Durran]

geeze didnt even see that post! yeah with a bit of breeze and some downwind action we can stay in touch with the E7's, as we did in bay 2 bay beating 3 of them over the line. and upwind we are more ross 650 speed as the 7's waterline gives them some legs!

Thanks Tokyo.

You answered my Question , sorry to cause so much trouble! Sounds like E7 guys have little winnies.

 

[Grant Durran]

Thanks Tokyo.
You answered my Question , sorry to cause so much trouble! Sounds like E7 guys have little winnies.

Hey Tokyo

What is the height of your mast? Have you Gone above class rule?

Thanks D.N.C

 

[Steve AUS]

Actually they are quite big and very well maintained, hence a real boat with real size and not a shipping box with little rags hanging from hobie 16 masts.

 

[Tokyo Trash Baby]

Actually they are quite big and very well maintained, hence a real boat with real size and not a shipping box with little rags hanging from hobie 16 masts.

you never know... there could be a fleet of shipping boxes sailing on LBG soon

 

[Steve AUS]

Yeah but the Magic will erase them the first time we head downhill. Mmmm timber on a stick :lol:

Well I might of thought about one, but the attitude of these under compensaters certainly isn't endearing. Picking on the great E7, it just won't do.

 

[Tokyo Trash Baby]

haha timber on a stick eh? some just underestimate the power of wood!! not my fault someone doesnt want to believe what the boat can do DOWNWIND in the right conditions, but would rather argue about an allround performance against the E7. there was never any picking on the e7 anyway. :huh: and a magic should fucking erase one downhill with its traps and bigger rig, its pretty obvious it should

 

[Tokyo Trash Baby]

No I meant ERASE them, and then timber would be on the stick!

:blink: sorry mate, not getting it, timber the poster in this thread? wtf :blink:

 

[Steve AUS]

At least you recognised me as a fool.

If only you had expanded with the possibilities, you might have held onto that penny that you haven't realised you have lost yet.

 

[Bill E Goat]

For fucks sake will you two stop carrying on like a pair of pork chops.

Both boats are great in their own special way and I have no doubt the TTB would be faster than an E7 in fresh downhill stuff. This years B2B was not the best for comparing relative speeds. The first day started like shit and the second ended like shit.

See you at the Wintersun

 

[Steve AUS]

now a pork chop from a goat go and do some turns somewhere, oh my bad!

What's with the mate, you want to be buddys again?

 

[Bill E Goat]

Fuck off steve getting a bit old by now, move on

 

[Steve AUS]

To give the i550 back it's world, I have deleted a few posts that were viewed not exactly how I meant (except to Jimmy), the meds are now kicking in, long live the shipping container.