if you like your social security.....

Steam Flyer

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You mean the. "Why should I join the Union when I get all the things they win anyway" thing?
As to the rest, unions can be no more or no less corrupt than their capitalist counterparts.

Funny how no one hardly ever says

"I'm not joining an insurance scheme because they are all corrupt"

Or
" I'm insisting the CEO gets alcohol tested"

Or
My boss is mediocre so I'll find another.

Non of us are completely immune to the capitalist spin machine are we?

Actually I said those last two things... company owner rather than CEO... several times.

I did not join a union because I did not need what they offered. There is no reason to join a union for what they fought for 20~50 years ago. When my job sucked and I could get a better one, I fucking quit then went and got it. But then, I did not have a family to support.

I am not anti-union in principle, but the unions in the USA have done themselves in.

There is a severe downslope in leadership in the USA over the past 30 years, and unions are right at the tip of this trend.
 

Olsonist

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Why am I not surprised that Boomers, the only ones with a single payer healthcare system, (other than the VA) are pulling up the, ladder after them?

Funding is easily fixed by eliminating the SS income cap. True dat.

Again, it's not the Boomers. It's the Republicans.

BTW, I like Medicare (and I think Medicare Advantage is an insurance company giveaway). I want it to be there for the next generation and the next generations.

 

Ishmael

Super Antichrist
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Again, it's not the Boomers. It's the Republicans.

BTW, I like Medicare (and I think Medicare Advantage is an insurance company giveaway). I want it to be there for the next generation and the next generations.


Biden can bargain with him. He can lose the same percentage of his body as SS cuts.
 

BeSafe

Super Anarchist
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Yea, I'm still seeing the path I laid out before - existing SS gets 'auto-cut' by statute and the government backfills with a means tested CBDC to make up the difference.

I'm going to be amused (while a tiny part of me dies inside) by people trying to intimate that CBDCs are 'just like Crypto!' except its not - not at all.
 

Fat Point Jack

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I put this here before, but some of you blew it off.

I'll add that do you think that your favorite pro sport player should be finished paying SS tax before you have coffee on New Years Day.

I heard your interview on NPR the other day. You called for folks to have “skin in the game”. In another one you gave the warning that Social Security will soon be broke. You went on about cutting benefits and other limitations on the programs so many of your constituents rely on.

I've always believed in fairness. Your idea of “skin in the game” is way different than mine. Let's take a look at your buddy, Eric Silagy, you know the Head Mucky Muk of FPL. Your many of your constituents send him a check every month. But his “skin in the game” is way also way different to mine. Let's take a look at the Social Security Tax.

I'm reminded of the question: In a bacon and egg breakfast, what's the difference between the chicken and the pig?

Answer: The chicken is involved, but the pig is COMMITTED!

In this case Mr. Silagy is the chicken and I am the pig.

Mr. Silagy finished paying his annual Social Security Tax on January 6th about 10 PM. Throughout my entire working career I have paid the Social Security Tax everyday I worked. Mr. Siagy is involved with the Social Security Tax whereas I am committed.

It gets worse. As a result of Mr. Silagy's employment compensation package he receives a SEC Form 4, Statement Of Changes In Beneficial Ownership Of Securities. Per the statement of 2/17/2022 Mr. Silagy directly holds 892,129 shares of Nextera Energy stock. He also indirectly owns 177,352 shares of the same. Nextera Energy is paying a $.425/share quarterly dividend. This would give him an additional annual income of $772,696.

The bad part is he is taxed on these dividends at a lower rate than the income tax rate and he pays $0 in Social Security Tax.

I propose to you that the Social Security Tax income tax limit be eliminated. The rate can then be adjusted to raise the same amount of money or more. Furthermore that the dividend income from the shares reported on the Form 4 be taxed as ordinary income and the Social Security Tax applied.
 

veni vidi vici

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I put this here before, but some of you blew it off.

I'll add that do you think that your favorite pro sport player should be finished paying SS tax before you have coffee on New Years Day.

I heard your interview on NPR the other day. You called for folks to have “skin in the game”. In another one you gave the warning that Social Security will soon be broke. You went on about cutting benefits and other limitations on the programs so many of your constituents rely on.

I've always believed in fairness. Your idea of “skin in the game” is way different than mine. Let's take a look at your buddy, Eric Silagy, you know the Head Mucky Muk of FPL. Your many of your constituents send him a check every month. But his “skin in the game” is way also way different to mine. Let's take a look at the Social Security Tax.

I'm reminded of the question: In a bacon and egg breakfast, what's the difference between the chicken and the pig?

Answer: The chicken is involved, but the pig is COMMITTED!

In this case Mr. Silagy is the chicken and I am the pig.

Mr. Silagy finished paying his annual Social Security Tax on January 6th about 10 PM. Throughout my entire working career I have paid the Social Security Tax everyday I worked. Mr. Siagy is involved with the Social Security Tax whereas I am committed.

It gets worse. As a result of Mr. Silagy's employment compensation package he receives a SEC Form 4, Statement Of Changes In Beneficial Ownership Of Securities. Per the statement of 2/17/2022 Mr. Silagy directly holds 892,129 shares of Nextera Energy stock. He also indirectly owns 177,352 shares of the same. Nextera Energy is paying a $.425/share quarterly dividend. This would give him an additional annual income of $772,696.

The bad part is he is taxed on these dividends at a lower rate than the income tax rate and he pays $0 in Social Security Tax.

I propose to you that the Social Security Tax income tax limit be eliminated. The rate can then be adjusted to raise the same amount of money or more. Furthermore that the dividend income from the shares reported on the Form 4 be taxed as ordinary income and the Social Security Tax applied.
The Golden Rule
 

veni vidi vici

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I prefer the Greek version these days - it's less shiny and refined - not as pithy - and doesn't have the double entendre of Kantian sophistry - "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must".
PT Barnum and the DNC understood
 

Blue Crab

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We should watch France carefully. They just cut their plan by raising the age from 62 to 64.
 

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Might as well dump this here, too many overlapping cluster fucks
The Coup is Complete and the peasants will bare the burden, just as they always do.
Why the liberals here still don’t understand that they are being played as useful idiots is the most puzzling of all.
 
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