ILCA gives LPE the boot... seeking new Laser builder
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Alan Crawford
Super Anarchist
Laser racing at it's finest (plus great breeze)! Thanks for reminding this thread about why we are all here!
Admiral Hornblower
Super Anarchist
thanks! it held up great! If it was going to break it would have broken on that day!
I placed 12 out of 40, in case you were wondering, a result I'm pleased with considering the quality of the competition, and sailing the oldest boat there by about 30 years!
https://theclubspot.com/regatta/4GoI2RvVgs/results
I would have made the top ten, but for 2 unfortunate capsizes right in front of the finish line...sigh
Bill5
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Comparing ILCA to Hitler? Very dramatic. Good God, man. Desperate response.
Do you see how your generic supplier panacea may do the exact opposite of what you want?
Bill5
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But they weren’t legal, so none of the elite paid attention. In your open market scenario with generics being fully legal, you don’t think this would be exploited? You don’t think Quantum (eg) would build a sail for a world champ and market the shit out of it? If The elite thought Quantum’s were faster, do you not think they would pay a couple hundred bucks extra? That, my friend, would be a reality. And the lemmings would follow. Oh - and where are the generic sails coming from now?
Bill5
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Oh - and the generic sails and foils are not as good. Reality.
Wess
Super Anarchist
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I hope you had a good time last weekend but my God you are... a lemming.
You love your bought and owned ILCA leaders. I think they and their policies suck.
Is that it is.
And still the majority don't and never will join ILCA because their leaders are a bunch of money sucking control freaks IMHO.
You love your bought and owned ILCA leaders. I think they and their policies suck.
Is that it is.
And still the majority don't and never will join ILCA because their leaders are a bunch of money sucking control freaks IMHO.
Bill5
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You think they suck? Gee. News bulletin. But, as usual, you didn’t answer the questions.
Had fun - great group, but this massive high pressure system in Western Canada delivered a drifter.
Had fun - great group, but this massive high pressure system in Western Canada delivered a drifter.
Bill5
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Jkdubz808
Megatron
Aside from the legal banter, I have some questions that may have been answered, but this thread is 112 pages long FFS....
Are older boats (2010-2016 lets say) hulls still legal for ILCA sanctioned events? Getting a second-hand boat and putting an ILCA sail on it is my thoughts on this question. I'm assuming yes but I just want to make sure.
So much has changed since I raced on the junior sailing Laser circuit many years ago, but am contemplating getting back into a Laser since the fleets around me are awesome. I enjoyed my years racing Lasers more than I did the Finns to be honest, but with all the legal changes I just want to make sure I have my head wrapped around what I can or can't do with a second-hand older boat. Mostly club level stuff but eventually would love to do some events like midwinters, Masters regatta (now that I qualify agewise) once I get my dinghy sailing groove back.
Are older boats (2010-2016 lets say) hulls still legal for ILCA sanctioned events? Getting a second-hand boat and putting an ILCA sail on it is my thoughts on this question. I'm assuming yes but I just want to make sure.
So much has changed since I raced on the junior sailing Laser circuit many years ago, but am contemplating getting back into a Laser since the fleets around me are awesome. I enjoyed my years racing Lasers more than I did the Finns to be honest, but with all the legal changes I just want to make sure I have my head wrapped around what I can or can't do with a second-hand older boat. Mostly club level stuff but eventually would love to do some events like midwinters, Masters regatta (now that I qualify agewise) once I get my dinghy sailing groove back.
Yep, anything pre mid 217,xxx is will be class legal, there's likely a small amount of crossover where LP continued their sail number sequence with their non-international class or world sailing approved hulls where they created their own "The Laser Class" stickers.
Anything 2016 or older will be International Class legal so to speak. You can still use the old starburst logo sails if you want, no need to buy an ILCA logo sail unless you're after something new and crisp. A bit more of a rundown is here: Verification of Class Legal Equipment For Use in Laser Class Competition (eurilca.org)
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Bored Stiff
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Yes, any hull with a WS/ISAF/IYRU plaque on it is class legal. That includes all LP hulls of any age, provided they have the plaque - this could include brand new unused boats built a couple of years back but still in stock. Ditto any sail with a button, which includes starburst sails more than a couple of years old and all new ILCA sails.
Bill5
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At this stage, I doubt you could find a non-class legal hull in Florida. LP’s latest “unstickered” hulls have yet to arrive in the US, at least in any quantity.
Our fleet is made up probably 50% of sailors like you - masters back in the game. You will love it.
Bill5
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Oh - and don’t let the 112 pages fool you. It is 75% repetitive. Very little quality information.
Alan Crawford
Super Anarchist
+100. This thread, however, will survive (along with cock roaches) after any potential nuclear holocaust.
