I'm watching 24 hr. le Mans

ro!

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I beleive they do certain races with two peeps, ergo shotgun seat and rollover protection.
Thanks billy.... I just watched Playstation do a pit and driver change. I guess you could add a rider. Certainly roll over protection. I'd say fuk it and buy me a closed cockpit design.. just looks so stupid.

And Rick... yes, all of life's questions are answered here.
Closed cockpits were taken out by rules a while ago, I think as part of a aero regulations that brought speed down. Along with reducing speed was a belief that the public would be more interested in the racing if they could see actual humans driving the cars. Guess they think it worked.
The P1 class leaders are both Peugeot's 908 HDi FAP. You can see them


So much disinformation which will become sa fact.

Closed cockpits were never taken out by the rules.

They do not have to have aircon but a driver cooling system and windscreen demist is nessacary.

The car is designed to rules that state you have to have space for a passenger but a passenger is never carried during a race.

They do not change which side the driver sits, the cars are way too complicated to do that.

clean might have just checked but IMSA became GrandAm not American Le Mans and the GA cars are built to a totally differrent set of rules than the cars racing this weekend in le Mans.

 

MR.CLEAN

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I beleive they do certain races with two peeps, ergo shotgun seat and rollover protection.
Thanks billy.... I just watched Playstation do a pit and driver change. I guess you could add a rider. Certainly roll over protection. I'd say fuk it and buy me a closed cockpit design.. just looks so stupid.

And Rick... yes, all of life's questions are answered here.
Closed cockpits were taken out by rules a while ago, I think as part of a aero regulations that brought speed down. Along with reducing speed was a belief that the public would be more interested in the racing if they could see actual humans driving the cars. Guess they think it worked.
The P1 class leaders are both Peugeot's 908 HDi FAP. You can see them

Sorry ro, I was talking a long time ago, before Grand Am. IMSA GTP became IMSA Sportcar became American LeMans, but this was in like the late 90s IIRC. I drove IMSA GTU and EMRA under 2.5 liters for a while when I was young, fast, and nuts.

 

ro!

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I beleive they do certain races with two peeps, ergo shotgun seat and rollover protection.
Thanks billy.... I just watched Playstation do a pit and driver change. I guess you could add a rider. Certainly roll over protection. I'd say fuk it and buy me a closed cockpit design.. just looks so stupid.

And Rick... yes, all of life's questions are answered here.
Closed cockpits were taken out by rules a while ago, I think as part of a aero regulations that brought speed down. Along with reducing speed was a belief that the public would be more interested in the racing if they could see actual humans driving the cars. Guess they think it worked.
The P1 class leaders are both Peugeot's 908 HDi FAP. You can see them



I am also guilty of spreading disinformation because imsa has ended up at alms where the rules are pretty much the same as le mans spec ie open or closed prototypes with mega technology, but grand am only allows closed cockpit cars to very strict nascar type rules.

 

ro!

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I beleive they do certain races with two peeps, ergo shotgun seat and rollover protection.
Thanks billy.... I just watched Playstation do a pit and driver change. I guess you could add a rider. Certainly roll over protection. I'd say fuk it and buy me a closed cockpit design.. just looks so stupid.

And Rick... yes, all of life's questions are answered here.
Closed cockpits were taken out by rules a while ago, I think as part of a aero regulations that brought speed down. Along with reducing speed was a belief that the public would be more interested in the racing if they could see actual humans driving the cars. Guess they think it worked.
The P1 class leaders are both Peugeot's 908 HDi FAP. You can see them



Anyone still around?-in the US speedtv.com has really good streaming live le mans.

 

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The all white (possibly no decals, etc.) Hall/Chevy Skunk Works vacuum CAN-AM car, driven by Jackie Stewart, the only tiome it ever raced, was a surprise entrtant when I happened to go to Watkins Glen with college pals. It had no wings, but a two cycle motor powered fan sucked it to the pavement. You could see that it was a bit slower in straights, but could just drive any-which-way around other cars in corners. Said to be vacuuming up debris of newly resurfaced track before it DNF'd.

(Seems like CAN-AM and TRANS-AM have lots of supporters. I'd like to see true stock-car racing....pull them off the showroom floor and race them on road courses with lots of corners. No roll bars, nothing...they're full of airbags and safety devices, eh? Which are supposed to work when bubba flips it on the way home from the bar?

Could make it a stimulus deal...government buys all the cars.)

 
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Infidel

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Spent a few years racing Porsche Supercups, pitcrewed 24 hour Daytona, and helped fund the '02 TRG LeMans victory. You would be surprised how similiar sailing and motorsports are in terms of the types of individuals at the upper end, the risks/thrills/need for speed mentalities, and the formulas for success. And of course the babe magnet side. It all fits.

Check out Briggs Cunningham. The original dual sportsman.

Very cool trailer. I'll get to the movie eventually. Sailing has a way to go before we approach the level of marketing that motorsports enjoys. If asphalt was replaced with water, we might have a chance.

 
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El Mariachi

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Spent a few years racing Porsche Supercups, pitcrewed 24 hour Daytona, and helped fund the '02 TRG LeMans victory. You would be surprised how similiar sailing and motorsports are in terms of the types of individuals at the upper end, the risks/thrills/need for speed mentalities, and the formulas for success. And of course the babe magnet side. It all fits.
Check out Briggs Cunningham. The original dual sportsman.

Very cool trailer. I'll get to the movie eventually. Sailing has a way to go before we approach the level of marketing that motorsports enjoys. If asphalt was replaced with water, we might have a chance.

Did you ever meet or know of Steve Alarcon? Big Porsche guy and owns Johnson Alignment over here. They've been doing all of my alignments for 30 years now. Real nice person and knows his shit..........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/member.php?u=15318

 
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Mojo31

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Hey Dave, where exactly does the 'Hill Country' start? And end?...........
Georgetown northern city limits to the north.

Southern San Antonio limits to the south.

I35 on the east.

Go west till it gets flat.

Anything else from the Kalifornian?

 

Infidel

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Spent a few years racing Porsche Supercups, pitcrewed 24 hour Daytona, and helped fund the '02 TRG LeMans victory. You would be surprised how similiar sailing and motorsports are in terms of the types of individuals at the upper end, the risks/thrills/need for speed mentalities, and the formulas for success. And of course the babe magnet side. It all fits.
Check out Briggs Cunningham. The original dual sportsman.

Very cool trailer. I'll get to the movie eventually. Sailing has a way to go before we approach the level of marketing that motorsports enjoys. If asphalt was replaced with water, we might have a chance.

Did you ever meet or know of Steve Alarcon? Big Porsche guy and owns Johnson Alignment over here. They've been doing all of my alignments for 30 years now. Real nice person and knows his shit..........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/member.php?u=15318
Been there. Nice shop. Good reputation.

 

Infidel

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What was the LeMans documentary [or was it Hollywood?] that I remember seeing as a kid in the '70s? Was it just entitled 'LeMans'? I remember it being pretty cool . .
The movie was "LeMans" with Steve McQueen. 1970.

About 17 lines of dialogue, the rest pure incredible race scenes. Fascinating stories about the creation of that movie. They entered a 911 in the real race just to get footage and rented 4 917's with pro drivers including Derek Bell to do the close ups. Steve McQueen drove one of them for real as he had considerable seat time in the pro racing circuits during the 1960's. I have the DVD and watch it about once a year.

 

DaveK

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What was the LeMans documentary [or was it Hollywood?] that I remember seeing as a kid in the '70s? Was it just entitled 'LeMans'? I remember it being pretty cool . .
The movie was "LeMans" with Steve McQueen. 1970.

About 17 lines of dialogue, the rest pure incredible race scenes. Fascinating stories about the creation of that movie. They entered a 911 in the real race just to get footage and rented 4 917's with pro drivers including Derek Bell to do the close ups. Steve McQueen drove one of them for real as he had considerable seat time in the pro racing circuits during the 1960's. I have the DVD and watch it about once a year.
I was looking for clips about the movie. But then I came across this. 79 people died at the 1955 race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXtb5eDUuQw

 

Infidel

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What was the LeMans documentary [or was it Hollywood?] that I remember seeing as a kid in the '70s? Was it just entitled 'LeMans'? I remember it being pretty cool . .
The movie was "LeMans" with Steve McQueen. 1970.

About 17 lines of dialogue, the rest pure incredible race scenes. Fascinating stories about the creation of that movie. They entered a 911 in the real race just to get footage and rented 4 917's with pro drivers including Derek Bell to do the close ups. Steve McQueen drove one of them for real as he had considerable seat time in the pro racing circuits during the 1960's. I have the DVD and watch it about once a year.
I was looking for clips about the movie. But then I came across this. 79 people died at the 1955 race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXtb5eDUuQw
This tragedy resulted in the exit of Mercedes from the racing scene for 30 years. If you go to the Mercedes museum in Stuttgart, there is a racing section that includes the Gullwing accident of 1955 and then picks up with the Merecedes built Indy engines in the 1980's.

A stark reminder of the both the laws of physics and the primitive safety systems in place back then.

 

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