Imitation Milk Product

Pertinacious Tom

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Imitation Milk Product

That's what you get if you take milk from a cow and skim off the cream.

If you then add government-approved chemicals, you've got "Skim Milk." But if you don't add them, you've got Imitation Milk Product.

The Sowers family operates South Mountain Creamery on their dairy farm near Frederick, Maryland. The creamery produces delicious milk, yogurt and cheese, among other tasty foods that the family-run business has been selling for years to eager customers in Maryland. Last fall, Randy contacted the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture to find out whether he could sell all-natural skim milk without added chemicals as “skim milk” in Pennsylvania. State officials have no objection to the commonsense use of the term, “skim milk,” but because Randy wants to sell in multiple states, they are forced to follow federal regulations. That means Randy’s plan is a no-go, thanks to the FDA. So he’s taking his fight to court.

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Milk contains healthy vitamins and minerals that are naturally stored in either water or fat. Because skim milk is made by removing the fat from whole milk, skim milk has more water-soluble nutrients like calcium but lacks fat-soluble vitamins A and D. The FDA requires dairy farmers to add synthetic versions of those lost vitamins to skim milk in order to label skim milk as “skim milk.” Without the fat of whole milk, the vitamins break down in skim milk before reaching consumers. In other words, the FDA manages to confuse American milk drinkers without providing any health benefits.
I'm a lot more likely to drink heavy cream than skim milk but it seems to me that the more "imitation" product is the one with additives.

 

ShortForBob

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Imitation Milk Product

That's what you get if you take milk from a cow and skim off the cream.

If you then add government-approved chemicals, you've got "Skim Milk." But if you don't add them, you've got Imitation Milk Product.

I'm a lot more likely to drink heavy cream than skim milk but it seems to me that the more "imitation" product is the one with additives.
I think the problem may have something to do with the idiots that think fat and additive free milk is better for their kiddies...what you are describing sounds like what is fed to calves to produce veal...rather cruel to calves and even more so to babies.

Nutritional rickets. Nutritional rickets, also calledosteomalacia, is a condition caused by vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin that is essential for the normal formation of bones and teeth and necessary for the appropriate absorption of calcium and phosphorus from the bowels.

So..without the Vitamin D in milk, People can't absorb the calcium in it.

Milk doesn't contain Vitamin D naturally, it's added. (as is the Vitamin A)

What skimming milk does is removes the Omega6..meaning the body cant process calcium..I think. anyway..Don't give kids skim milk natural or otherwise.

 
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BeSafe

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Imitation Milk Product

That's what you get if you take milk from a cow and skim off the cream.

If you then add government-approved chemicals, you've got "Skim Milk." But if you don't add them, you've got Imitation Milk Product.

I'm a lot more likely to drink heavy cream than skim milk but it seems to me that the more "imitation" product is the one with additives.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions but it's sold with marketing and financed by debt monetization.

It's unfortunate but the reason we have dumb rules about things like 'milk' is because some marketing genius figured out how to sell 'almost milk' that was from recycling inner tubes, bleached it white, and called it 'milk'.  That guy is long gone but the stupid rules remain.  Behind every stupid rule is a stupid person who did something stupid.

 
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ShortForBob

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions but it's sold with marketing and financed by debt monetization.

It's unfortunate but the reason we have dumb rules about things like 'milk' is because some marketing genius figured out how to sell 'almost milk' that was from recycling inner tubes, bleached it white, and called it 'milk'.  That guy is long gone but the stupid rules remain.  Behind every stupid rule is a stupid person who did something stupid.
Yeah..we had some dills here trying to get the gov to allow the sale of raw milk..(unpasturised) Being natural is not necessarily a good thing.

 

Pertinacious Tom

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Milk doesn't contain Vitamin D naturally, it's added. (as is the Vitamin A)

What skimming milk does is removes the Omega6..meaning the body cant process calcium..I think. anyway..Don't give kids skim milk natural or otherwise.
We contain vitamin D naturally if we get outside in the sun. Maybe Eskimo kids need it added?

 

ShortForBob

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We contain vitamin D naturally if we get outside in the sun. Maybe Eskimo kids need it added?
then you get skin cancer :D

Actually did you know that as you get older, your body absorbes less Vitamin D from sunlight, even if your lucky enough to live and work in the sun. Older people should all be taking supplements.

Additives like fluoride in water, iodine in milk, folic acid in bread are good things. 

 
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Pertinacious Tom

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then you get skin cancer :D

Actually did you know that as you get older, your body absorbes less Vitamin D from sunlight, even if your lucky enough to live and work in the sun. Older people should all be taking supplements.
Yes, I learned that when my wife started giving it to her mother and told me we should be taking it too.

I haven't acted on that knowledge, but I do know I should be doing it.

I try to make up for it with more time in the sun, preferably in boats where the deck can reflect even more sun at me.

Both parents with skin cancer.

I wonder if they put vitamin D in heavy cream or half and half? I only like high-test dairy products. And .22's!

 
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ShortForBob

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Yes, I learned that when my wife started giving it to her mother and told me we should be taking it too.

I haven't acted on that knowledge, but I do know I should be doing it.

I try to make up for it with more time in the sun, preferably in boats where the deck can reflect even more sun at me.

Both parents with skin cancer.

I wonder if they put vitamin D in heavy cream or half and half? I only like high-test dairy products.
It actually makes one feel a lot less vague. and helps with muscle tone.take it. :)

 

ShortForBob

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Can still buy raw milk in quite a few small places in the UK. I’ve not heard of any issues. 
I don't know anyone who's ever got salmonella from undercooked chook either.

It's illegal in scotland. personally I prefer not to get  BrucellaCampylobacterCryptosporidiumE. coliListeria, and Salmonella

AND I knew butchers still selling Chine of beef back in the 90's..let no man..or woman separate an englishman from his Pork pies either. :D

 

Ease the sheet.

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Milk we buy is different from  milk from a cow.

The milk we buy has minimum amounts of what we consider milk should have. If a farmer has good feed and good cows, he can produce milk with high calcium and protein counts.  The excess is sold of for other products, whats left is the minimum amounts,  usually mandated by law.

The milk we drink gets split then remade. Been going on for a long time now.

 

mad

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I don't know anyone who's ever got salmonella from undercooked chook either.

It's illegal in scotland. personally I prefer not to get  BrucellaCampylobacterCryptosporidiumE. coliListeria, and Salmonella

AND I knew butchers still selling Chine of beef back in the 90's..let no man..or woman separate an englishman from his Pork pies either. :D
What are the horrors contained in pork pies?!!!  :eek: IMG_2279.jpg

 
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austin1972

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Milk we buy is different from  milk from a cow.

The milk we buy has minimum amounts of what we consider milk should have. If a farmer has good feed and good cows, he can produce milk with high calcium and protein counts.  The excess is sold of for other products, whats left is the minimum amounts,  usually mandated by law.

The milk we drink gets split then remade. Been going on for a long time now.
Really? I didn't know that. When you say split, what do you mean?

 

Pertinacious Tom

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Milk we buy is different from  milk from a cow.

The milk we buy has minimum amounts of what we consider milk should have. If a farmer has good feed and good cows, he can produce milk with high calcium and protein counts.  The excess is sold of for other products, whats left is the minimum amounts,  usually mandated by law.

The milk we drink gets split then remade. Been going on for a long time now.
Really? I didn't know that. When you say split, what do you mean?
He means we buy imitation milk product, I think.

 

Lark

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Can still buy raw milk in quite a few small places in the UK. I’ve not heard of any issues. 
In the Midwest hobbiests sell unpasteurized mile for a “free will donation”.   No regulatory body tests for trace amounts of medication, or mastitis either.    Every so often a kid dies.  Listeria mostly, but salmonella etc. 

 






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