Inaugural Bayview One Design Regatta

L Z

Reporters
As you all know by now, the Bayview Yacht Club is launching the "Bayview One Design Regatta" scheduled for June 01-03, 2012. Yes, there will be some PHRF also for those interested. We want everyone out on the course instead of the docks.

Registration is now open and the NOR is posted for this new event.

Mark your calendar and sign up for it! Bayview OD Regatta Registration

Don't miss out!

Merry Christmas

 

Spyder

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LZ,

please tell us what BYC learned from watching the NOOD decline over the years and what you will do that is any different (read better).

It does not matter what banner a regatta flys under, bad is bad. After all these years I was going to by-pass 2012, why should I return?

 

L Z

Reporters
LZ,

please tell us what BYC learned from watching the NOOD decline over the years and what you will do that is any different (read better).

It does not matter what banner a regatta flys under, bad is bad. After all these years I was going to by-pass 2012, why should I return?
I'm not directly involved in the organization of the event but have you ever been to a bad event run by Bayview? It is our event now so plan on it and be there!

Cheers, LZ

 

Spyder

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LZ,

please tell us what BYC learned from watching the NOOD decline over the years and what you will do that is any different (read better).

It does not matter what banner a regatta flys under, bad is bad. After all these years I was going to by-pass 2012, why should I return?
I'm not directly involved in the organization of the event but have you ever been to a bad event run by Bayview? It is our event now so plan on it and be there!

Cheers, LZ
 

Spyder

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LZ,

I’m not singling you out but “trust us we’re Bayview” is not a marketing campaign.

Who ever is in charge of this thing needs to remember that BYC is selling what was an over priced and tarnished product to the same people who were fleeced before. There are no new customers here so you need to make up for past mistakes even if BYC did not have a say in them.

Tell us why the price break goes from “over priced” at 24 feet to “wretchedly over priced” at the point where the perennially biggest class (Cal-25) buys in?

Tell us how the races will be better run, how the parties will be better timed, how BYC is going to expand on the best run regattas in (pick you favorite locations).

 

L Z

Reporters
So Spyder, I posed your questions/points to the organizers and here are some of their responses for you:

- The acronym is BOD for Bayview One Design. Sounds like Todd with a B.

- We've lowered prices below last year's NOOD pricing. We've checked out other regatta pricing and believe we are comparable or lower. Check them out as they are in the NOR

- Dinghy pricing is lower to reflect the smaller crews and easier RC work in front of Club.

- Launching and haul-out is FREE.

- Berthing is FREE.

- We will be moving circles closer to BYC to reduce travel time.

- We will have rolling starts for more racing.

- We will have a Saturday non-counter "Champagne" race back to Bayview.

- We intend to have music playing and beverages available when sailors step off their boats.

- Instead of wristbands we intend to have inexpensive food/beverage options available.

- Many more awards than in past.

- As always we will have well run races by experienced RC.

- We will party well into the night.

 

It is still early and we'll have more to come as planning continues.

I'm sure they are open for constructive suggestions and ideas to make it a great event. If you have any (constructive), let me know and I'll make sure it gets to the right hands.

LZ

 

big chicken

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Luiz,

Two questions:

1) In the past there was a Level 120 (PHRF) class that was sailed without handicap. Are level classes being considered and if so will a PHRF certificate be required in those classes?

2) I see that the NOR states that PHRF boats must have a DRYA PHRF certificate. Has there been any thought given to accepting other areas certificates such as PHRF-LE in addition to DRYA?

 

L Z

Reporters
Luiz,
Two questions:

1) In the past there was a Level 120 (PHRF) class that was sailed without handicap. Are level classes being considered and if so will a PHRF certificate be required in those classes?

2) I see that the NOR states that PHRF boats must have a DRYA PHRF certificate. Has there been any thought given to accepting other areas certificates such as PHRF-LE in addition to DRYA?
BC,

Happy New Year... The Holidays delayed the responses from the OA so here they are:

1) 1. Our intention is to have PHRF handicapped classes for Saturday and Sunday and don’t expect to have Level racing. I’m not quite sure why you’d have Level racing if you have handicapped. However, that is not to say if a full class requested Level racing that we wouldn’t consider it. Then we would also have to determine if the Level classes would race 2 or 3 days. Regardless, we will require PHRF certificates whether we do or not.

2. 2) We will be making allowances to allow non-DRYA PHRF certificates. However, the OA will make rating adjustments as necessary for consistency between boats. We have yet to determine if these adjustments will be made through the DRYA or an OA selected ratings committee. We will post additional information on the website as it becomes available.

 
LZ - love the answers to questions. You got it right with rolling starts, eliminating wristbands, and music. Wish the pricing could have come down more, but OK let's rock and roll and in the end I think we will spend less and have more fun with the wristband shortage/cost problem gone away. Will make efforts to have as many Cal25s on the line as we can.

 

SailDry

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LZ,

I'm not singling you out but "trust us we're Bayview" is not a marketing campaign.

Who ever is in charge of this thing needs to remember that BYC is selling what was an over priced and tarnished product to the same people who were fleeced before. There are no new customers here so you need to make up for past mistakes even if BYC did not have a say in them.

Tell us why the price break goes from "over priced" at 24 feet to "wretchedly over priced" at the point where the perennially biggest class (Cal-25) buys in?

Tell us how the races will be better run, how the parties will be better timed, how BYC is going to expand on the best run regattas in (pick you favorite locations).
You sound like the perfect volunteer. Contact Karl or Hanson for your work details.

 

glexpress

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The difference in price is slight, it would have been smarter if that wasn't a selling point. I understand there's costs involved, one negative of kicking SW to the curb is incurring the costs they paid. But don't sell this event like a cost effective alternative to the SW NOOD, because it is not.

One thing that would have helped with the declining participation and costs was to make this a Saturday - Sunday event, two full days. The Detroit NOOD was mostly local with declining out of town participation. So why not let us save our vacation day on Friday and race the entire day on Sunday? Rubber stamping the NOOD format and expecting a better result or increased participation is a tenuous expectation. Changing the party format, promising closer, faster racing and allowing dinghies are minor changes.

All that being said if our crew is chomping at the bit for 3 days of racing we'll be there, if not I'll crew with some friends. Either way I'm happy B)

 




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