southseasbill
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Awesome interview. Thanks for that Mozzy.
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Awesome interview. Thanks for that Mozzy.
@Mozzy Sails thanks for this, really excellent interview, hope you can do some more in future, format works really well.
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AeroSail1
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@Mozzy Sails Awesome interview. From what he said at minute 37 it seems like they are using a CVT gearbox in their grinding setup. Would not be surprised as they always mention how proud INEOS is of their power management and also given the involvement of the Formula 1 team.
strider470
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At LR, given the lack of results Ferrari had of recent, they preferred not to ask them
MaxHugen
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Ouch! Been a long time Ferrari fan.At LR, given the lack of results Ferrari had of recent, they preferred not to ask them
However, I'm not sure the Mercedes F1 team were particularly useful with GB's foils either....
strider470
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MaxHugen
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I think it can also happen with a whole bunch of clever folks who just don't quite gel and figure out what the priorities are to concentrate on.
"Too many cooks spoil the broth."
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Great stuff, thanks so much!
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jaysper
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Look, I don't approve of cheating or tilting the playing field too much (like the NYYC did in the olden days), but Ben needs to pull his panties up.
They lost. They lost badly in Bermuda and they lost here.
Rather than calling for the AC to be run like a kindergarten competition where everyone gets a medal, he needs to face facts.
For whatever reason, the team created an inferior boat BOTH times and I doubt that team in its current incarnation could have won the cup even with all the advantages of defender.
What concerns me is that if they look for blame outside the team, they will miss the opportunity to be honest about what was wrong inside the team and history will repeat.
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In the very-very olden days, yes maybe. But the NYYC moved progressively over decades to make it more ‘fair’ - especially once they accepted the multi-Chall scenario starting in 1970.
Ben and Ratcliffe’s biggest gripe appears to have been the (yes, unprecedented unfairness) of ETNZ developing the Rule without the input, or even the listening in on, by other teams. I can’t see them signing as CoR come a week from today (Sunday NZ time) without that and maybe other standards getting addressed first.
Kiwing
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Grow up spinbot.
Rennmaus
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Any perceived unfairness was certainly not unprecedented. There were more unfair defenders in the Cup's history, e.g. the NYYC comes to mind, for approx. a century.
jaysper
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Tornado-Cat
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In his interview Benjamin Muyl, Ineos designer, remind us that the two finalist were the first to know the AC75 rules while they were trying to guess what kind of mono they would have to design, losing precious months.
https://voilesetvoiliers.ouest-france.fr/regate/coupe-de-l-america/video-les-francais-dans-la-coupe-benjamin-muyl-debriefe-l-aventure-d-ineos-team-uk-7ae84cc4-4054-11eb-8608-7f0bbbb8511e
https://voilesetvoiliers.ouest-france.fr/regate/coupe-de-l-america/video-les-francais-dans-la-coupe-benjamin-muyl-debriefe-l-aventure-d-ineos-team-uk-7ae84cc4-4054-11eb-8608-7f0bbbb8511e
Kiwing
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Excuses, excuses!
Be interesting to see of Ben is happy to sign over any potential advantage of being COR once/if he holds the reins. Or, more sensibly, keeps that little edge over any other challengers.
Paddywackery
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Most unlikely. What we have, we hold. On the other hand, if commercial considerations rule the day then a level playing field with more entrants might be preferred. Competitive v Commercial?
